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Cuthbert Allgood

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75. I do find it interesting that we passed on other Dems

Mon Dec 20, 2021, 05:28 PM

Dec 2021

because Biden would be able to reach across the aisle and get things done. That we needed to not have all the things we wanted right now in order to get some of the things. And then that didn't work. But I'm sure the next time we will be told the exact same thing. And then people will wonder, again, why we can't have nice things.

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Manchin 'refused' a call from W.H. before killing BBB [View all] Polybius Dec 2021 OP

Just this MFM008 Dec 2021 #1

Joe. Fucking. Manchin. Blue Owl Dec 2021 #2

Maybe they will listen to AOC next time and act accordingly to save the agenda. UCmeNdc Dec 2021 #3

You really think listening to AOC would have saved the agenda? Walleye Dec 2021 #5

It wasn't just AOC saying it. PTWB Dec 2021 #9

It doesn't work with people who are negotiating in bad faith Walleye Dec 2021 #10

Yes, I think he could easily have been leveraged into voting for this. PTWB Dec 2021 #11

Well I won't argue with you, but this is all speculation Walleye Dec 2021 #12

FFS, did we learn nothing from Lieberman? SMC22307 Dec 2021 #32

Yes. They pull this shit and then the Democratic Party takes the blame Walleye Dec 2021 #44

You do if you accept quakerboy Dec 2021 #55

If he's not going to keep his word it doesn't matter what party he's in Walleye Dec 2021 #56

It sorta does quakerboy Dec 2021 #59

I get that.I'm just afraid that campaigns and elections don't work the way they used to Walleye Dec 2021 #60

Well, if the I told ya so gets them to listen the next time TDale313 Dec 2021 #17

☝️ THIS RIGHT HERE ☝️ AOC is a leader we need right now!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2021 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2021 #24

Zero proof their theory would have played out... lame54 Dec 2021 #61

I don't know if there is anything the Dem leadership can do to make Manchin's life Nay Dec 2021 #4

The Pittsburgh Post Gazette moniss Dec 2021 #53

Thanks for that post and the information therein. Stuart G Dec 2021 #81

Well, it was damned nice of Manchin.... SergeStorms Dec 2021 #6

He shanked our President MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #30

Me too. Manchin is not trustworthy. Ilsa Dec 2021 #52

He's a Democrat in a Ruby red state MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #67

Joe Manchin is "Evil" Stuart G Dec 2021 #7

I'd like to hear from anyone who thinks he still acts in good faith. LonePirate Dec 2021 #8

I proclaim him to be a lying sack of shit at this point Walleye Dec 2021 #13

That seems like a fair assessment to me. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #39

They're still here Polybius Dec 2021 #16

They are here even today defending him now. onecaliberal Dec 2021 #25

He acts in good faith Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #35

+1, ... and I don't even fully know what Manchin did recently yet. I just know he's not been honest uponit7771 Dec 2021 #64

Charlamagne was right, Manchin thinks he's the President. radius777 Dec 2021 #14

I'm getting more curious about how, specifically, Biden has been working with Machin to get this WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #15

This. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #36

I do find it interesting that we passed on other Dems Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #75

Exactly my thoughts. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #78

And then he collected more of his bribery checks from the GOP and those that are RKP5637 Dec 2021 #18

And THIS... LowerManhattanite Dec 2021 #19

I'm not fond of this decision but joe has been a 98% solid democrat and I remember that. Groundhawg Dec 2021 #20

Yeah real solid voting to confim Kavanaugh to the SC. Autumn Dec 2021 #29

98%? Where are you pulling that number from? (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2021 #34

It may be true, but would likely include votes to name a post office. Lucky Luciano Dec 2021 #40

Oops, looks like it's higher than that Groundhawg Dec 2021 #73

Your kind remembrance Triloon Dec 2021 #41

I think he will continue to support us after this Groundhawg Dec 2021 #74

Manchin I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2021 #21

Who the fuck does this guy think he is? AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #22

I thought Biden and Manchin were communicating all this time leftstreet Dec 2021 #26

How about Rebl2 Dec 2021 #49

Jen/the WH say they were, and that JB believed the dialogue was going to continue in Jan. JudyM Dec 2021 #72

Damn AOC and the Progressives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Diablo del sol Dec 2021 #27

+1 MustLoveBeagles Dec 2021 #28

You got that right. DU's vocal minority would be apoplectic. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2021 #37

The squad are not senators... lame54 Dec 2021 #63

Outstanding point Diablo del sol Dec 2021 #66

So they voted on what they stood for when they knew it would still pass? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #76

right ?! uponit7771 Dec 2021 #65

Are DUers allowed to trash Joe "He's the best we can do in WV!" Manchin now? SMC22307 Dec 2021 #31

Feel free to trash that piece of shit. Lucky Luciano Dec 2021 #42

Well, you're still standing... SMC22307 Dec 2021 #80

Hah...Biden himself probably called him a scumbag piece of shit! Lucky Luciano Dec 2021 #82

LOL, exactly. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2021 #83

I hadn't read the WH statement until seeing it mentioned in your post fishwax Dec 2021 #71

Yeah, they didn't hold back... and Maserati Manchin deserved every word. (n/t) SMC22307 Dec 2021 #79

President Biden thought he could reason with this guy. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #33

Maybe, like omicron, they didn't see Manchin's vote coming leftstreet Dec 2021 #38

Yes indeed. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #45

LOL SMC22307 Dec 2021 #46

That just makes Biden's claim of being able to work with everyone Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #77

Biden keeps his word and he expects others to do so. Especially Democratic senators Walleye Dec 2021 #47

Coward.. Joe won't let this pass... Joinfortmill Dec 2021 #43

What's he gonna do? BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #48

ManChin has signaled BlueIdaho Dec 2021 #50

If pukes take control. that's it, baby. Good bye republic. Hello christian monarchy. triron Dec 2021 #54

Makes you want to say, Hmmmmm....... Somebody got something on him???? ashredux Dec 2021 #51

Or his daughter - she's as dishonest as he is dflprincess Dec 2021 #62

Now that's what I call a 100% loyal Democrat who supports Biden's agenda Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #57

It appears that Kamala Harris spoke too soon in that interview on Friday. bullwinkle428 Dec 2021 #58

He's going to bolt ibegurpard Dec 2021 #68

Manchin.... jcmaine72 Dec 2021 #69

President Biden should give a prime time address Blaukraut Dec 2021 #70