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ancianita

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72. Okay. Well, here's an idea: It's true, as Irish_Dem says, "Still open season on Dems in Texas"
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 05:35 PM
Oct 2021

and "Almost 60 years since JFK was killed there."

I was agreeing that it's still as open season on Dems as it was 60 years since JFK was killed there, and even before he was killed there, when Kennedy chose TX Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson as his VP running mate.

Below, I posted sources that show how TX had it in for Kennedy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/upshot/kennedy-lbj-and-a-disputed-deer-hunt.html

https://news.utexas.edu/2013/11/18/why-jfk-died-in-dallas/


During the 1960 campaign, Kennedy confronted the persistent strain of anti-Catholic bigotry that surfaced since the days of the Know-Nothing Party in the mid-19th century, which promised to purify American politics of Catholic or other immigrant influence deemed to be alien.

In Texas, the Baptist convention passed a resolution "cautioning members against voting for a Roman Catholic candidate" – a measure echoed across a handful of other states – buoyed by the argument that a Catholic president would put loyalty to the Pope ahead of loyalty to the United States. Just weeks after his election, a virulently anti-Catholic retired postal worker tried to assassinate Kennedy in Florida

After the botched Bay of Pigs invasion, Kennedy became a curse word among many Cuban exiles who blamed the president for abandoning their brothers on the beaches to Fidel Castro. Even a half-century later, the community's anger continues.

On the flip-side of the aisle, the far-Right wing John Birch Society mouthpiece, American Opinion, accused Kennedy of "shameless intimidation, bribery, and blackmail" which compelled "weaklings in Congress to approve treasonable acts designed to disarm us and make us the helpless prey of the affiliated criminals and savages of the United Nations".

President Kennedy also confronted the forerunners of the modern "patriot group" militia movement, warning that "armed bands of civilian guerrillas that are more likely to supply local vigilantes than national vigilance".

And days before Kennedy's assassination, thousands of fliers were distributed in downtown Dallas, featuring a mugshot photo of Kennedy over the words "Wanted for Treason."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/hating-kennedy

And then there was doubt within and about LBJ himself.

And there were strategic reasons for him to call Bobby. Even in this first hour after John F. Kennedy’s death, Lyndon Johnson seems to have had feelings that would torment him for the rest of his life—feelings understandable in any man placed in the Presidency not through an election but through an assassin’s bullet, and feelings exacerbated, in his case, by the contrast, and what he felt was the world’s view of the contrast, between him and the President he was replacing; by the contempt in which he had been held by the people around the President; and by the stark geographical fact of where the act elevating him to office had taken place.

Recalling his feelings years later, in retirement, he said that, even after he had taken the oath, “for millions of Americans I was still illegitimate, a naked man with no presidential covering, a pretender to the throne, an illegal usurper. And then there was Texas, my home, the home of . . . the murder. . . . And then there were the bigots and the dividers and the Eastern intellectuals, who were waiting to knock me down before I could even begin to stand up.”

He seems to have felt even in this first hour that the best way to legitimatize his ascent to the throne, to make himself seem less like a usurper, would be to demonstrate that his ascent had the support of his predecessor’s family. The decision to be sworn in immediately, in Dallas, instead of waiting until he returned to Washington, had been made, but he wanted that decision to be approved by the man whose approval would carry the most weight.

There were, of course, reasons for him not to call Robert Kennedy, reasons for him to obtain the information he wanted from someone else—from anyone else. The questions he asked—could the swearing in take place in Dallas? what was the wording of the oath? who could administer it?—were not complicated questions, and could have been answered by any one of a hundred government officials...

Kennedy called Katzenbach, saying, “They want to swear him in right away, in Texas. That’s not necessary, is it?” “No, not necessary,” Katzenbach replied. And when Kennedy asked who could swear him in, Katzenbach said, “Anyone who can administer an oath,” a category that included any federal judge or hundreds of other government officials; the place or the exact time of the swearing in didn’t matter. “You become President when the President dies—that’s accepted. It’s not a question.”

“My parents completely accept you as family. They just don’t like you.”
Katzenbach later said that he agreed that an immediate swearing in, while not necessary, was desirable, “given its symbolic significance.” But he was “absolutely stunned” that Johnson had made the call to Bobby Kennedy so soon after his brother’s death. Any number of federal officials could have given Johnson the information he was seeking, he said. “He could have called me. I was in my office.” He felt that Johnson might have made the call because “he may have wanted to be absolutely sure that there wouldn’t be an explosion from Bobby’s end”—wanted to insure that Bobby would not later say that the immediate swearing in showed a lack of respect for the dead President. But, he said, given Bobby’s “feelings about Johnson, and about his brother,” the fact that Johnson called Bobby so soon after his brother’s death “frankly appalled” him. “Calling Bobby was really wrong.”
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/04/02/the-transition

And then there's today:



So if you still have no idea, I don't know what more to tell you.






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Many Republican traitors have infested law enforcement Champp Oct 2021 #1
It's been a part of their overall grand scheme for sure -- police depts, school boards, KPN Oct 2021 #22
And it's working, too, because few Dems in power ever address it. And it'll work because Nay Oct 2021 #35
💯 live love laugh Oct 2021 #39
WBEZ Chicago's podcast "Motive" explains it all Yeahokisee Oct 2021 #80
Damned rednecks need to be fired. walkingman Oct 2021 #2
It's Chicago cops, too mucifer Oct 2021 #3
Example? Just asking cuz I lived there for decades and never heard of this. ancianita Oct 2021 #37
They sat on their asses during the 2020 riots. nt live love laugh Oct 2021 #40
Were they not protecting elected or campaign officials? Or someone else? Or property? Or...? ancianita Oct 2021 #41
In both cases they didn't do their jobs to serve and protect. nt live love laugh Oct 2021 #42
Sorry, I don't follow. What specifically did they not do that caused harm like TX cops? ancianita Oct 2021 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author live love laugh Oct 2021 #54
Have you listened to the Chicago WBEZ Podcast "Motive"? Yeahokisee Oct 2021 #81
Yes but... Texas luv2fly Oct 2021 #4
Texas Taliban isn't just a name for them, they earn it daily. lark Oct 2021 #5
Parts of Arizona also kimbutgar Oct 2021 #18
Hmm, Arizona is a state i've been through numerous times in the past & no issues whatsoever. lark Oct 2021 #30
I've been going there since my in laws moved from California to the Phoenix area in 1993 kimbutgar Oct 2021 #33
I was statioined in San Antonio for my first active duty tour... 3catwoman3 Oct 2021 #26
Every state DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #45
I went to grad school in Denver, at CU's... 3catwoman3 Oct 2021 #50
Every state's least favorite state ... aggiesal Oct 2021 #57
I love how Florida is marked hates Florida. Nt cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #59
Another good one is New Jersey hates all states n/t aggiesal Oct 2021 #61
Those are great! ShazzieB Oct 2021 #63
It probably goes way back...Green Bay was on it's way to becoming a major midwest transport hub LeftInTX Oct 2021 #71
Thanks for this! ShazzieB Oct 2021 #75
Sad. lark Oct 2021 #69
With Mississippi it depends largely on where you are, though. Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #31
Decades ago, we stopped in MS, outside of a big town at local owned diner. lark Oct 2021 #68
Police officers refusing back up "Liberal" police officers .... Lovie777 Oct 2021 #6
I hadn't hear that one yet. FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #16
They don't do anything because they will be threatened and run out of a job/career. Dustlawyer Oct 2021 #32
Too true luv2fly Oct 2021 #19
The anti-American Nazis have infiltrated every part of our government RAB910 Oct 2021 #7
Still open season on Dems in Texas. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #8
Just thinking that myself PCIntern Oct 2021 #9
Since Kennedy picked LBJ. ancianita Oct 2021 #55
"Since Kennedy picked LBJ"? whathehell Oct 2021 #58
sigh... ancianita Oct 2021 #64
sigh.. whathehell Oct 2021 #70
Okay. Well, here's an idea: It's true, as Irish_Dem says, "Still open season on Dems in Texas" ancianita Oct 2021 #72
Okay, so here's my idea: Now that you're responding in full sentences, whathehell Oct 2021 #73
Cool! ancianita Oct 2021 #74
If you say so whathehell Oct 2021 #77
Having taught high school and college writing, I say so. ancianita Oct 2021 #78
Lol! whathehell Oct 2021 #79
Say what? ShazzieB Oct 2021 #62
sigh... ancianita Oct 2021 #65
Here in Austin, police are refusing to respond to property crimes in residential neighborhoods. Lonestarblue Oct 2021 #10
That may backfire in a very deadly way OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #13
Unless more dead, & derelict cops are trying to foment a civil war. Then that's what rethugs want. ancianita Oct 2021 #76
Armed, badged and at your service...If they're in the mood. jaxexpat Oct 2021 #15
That's amazing. Sad too. underpants Oct 2021 #56
Crime is up because law enforcement is down mountain grammy Oct 2021 #11
Yep! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #14
This is everywhere at this point. My cop friend and I have discussions and he said "I can't talk Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #12
Trumplicans are petty little petulant children. Joe Nation Oct 2021 #17
They endangered everyone on the highway at that time. Wingus Dingus Oct 2021 #20
Also, last year the San Marcos police fucking lied and told the FBI they "weren't able Wingus Dingus Oct 2021 #21
Lying to the FBI is a crime. Lock them up! SunSeeker Oct 2021 #43
Every lawyer defending a client arrested by SMPD should use the 'they lied to the FBI, can we trust ZonkerHarris Oct 2021 #49
Lying to the FBI is a crime, they should suffer the consequences uponit7771 Oct 2021 #53
The Klu Klux Klan act of 1871 should make this an open and shut case. mn9driver Oct 2021 #23
There should be a concerted effort to boycott San Marcos Horse with no Name Oct 2021 #24
And they bristle indignantly when we call them pigs. Aristus Oct 2021 #25
This is a dangerous direction for the country UCmeNdc Oct 2021 #27
Can the police be sued? Sabuca Oct 2021 #28
FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Lasher Oct 2021 #29
Common thread to this kind of police fascism is fascist police unions. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #34
Crackerass crackers is one thing. Crackerass LEO's refuse to protect elected officials. Fire them. ancianita Oct 2021 #36
DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER COLOR OF LAW multigraincracker Oct 2021 #38
San Marcos is my county seat. summer_in_TX Oct 2021 #46
Okay. Joe needs to ignore the next TX disaster. LakeArenal Oct 2021 #44
Some days Delphinus Oct 2021 #47
Matthew Daenzer is going to go through some things. ZonkerHarris Oct 2021 #48
Mother F'ers!! Pepsidog Oct 2021 #52
Unfreakingreal Blue Owl Oct 2021 #60
May the entire fucking police force be indicted. 🤬 BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2021 #66
Matthew Daenzer: dalton99a Oct 2021 #67
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