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Amishman

(5,896 posts)
16. I think we need to be very careful with it
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 06:02 AM
Oct 2021

Why?

We need a fairly tight labor market for an extended period to allow workers wages to catch up to the growth denied over the past 20+ years. Wages are close to a record low as it's share of GDP, corporate profits close to a record high.

The other big reason is what is to come. I work in software development, and have done a lot of work in process automation. There are tons of back office clerical jobs that are going to be eliminated in the next decade just from the types of systems I implement.

Automation is coming in other areas. Kiosk / app ordering in food service, automated warehouses, drone delivery of orders, self driving trucking, store inventory and shelf stocking robots, fruit / vegetable picking robots. All these things are at the prototype stage or even further.

As wages catch up, businesses will accelerate automation plans. It's happening already.

The current labor market rightness won't persist long term, low skill and/or repetitive jobs will be eliminated. Which might be a good thing long term, stacking cans in a supermarket is not a job that provides any fulfillment for the person doing it.

We need to be very careful to balance present needs with future pressures.

Plus let's face it, there are a lot more people who want to come here than we can take in.

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Blasphemers! LOL. Thomas Hurt Oct 2021 #1
Needs more immigrants to address the problem of having to pay people more... PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #2
Yup, keep people coming in on the bottom rung. CanonRay Oct 2021 #3
There is truth to that as well however... CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #26
No, they just want to lower wages. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #34
So, are we for immigration or not? Hoyt Oct 2021 #4
At some point we have to slow down Polybius Oct 2021 #9
So, what do we do to limit people coming here for a better life to meet your quota? Hoyt Oct 2021 #10
I'm not much on driving down wages. Fullduplexxx Oct 2021 #18
This can be fixed without limiting immigration. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #21
As a US Citizen I will advocate for the advancement of our living conditions Devil Child Oct 2021 #27
Or, a family with absolutely nothing coming here for a better life? Hoyt Oct 2021 #33
Yes n/t Devil Child Oct 2021 #40
That's sad. Next, I guess we'll deport people who have been here for years to raise wages. Hoyt Oct 2021 #43
Ok Devil Child Oct 2021 #45
We could stop CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #28
Agree with that completely. But, what do we do about poor folks at the border now? Hoyt Oct 2021 #46
Well, are we talking legal immigration? Polybius Oct 2021 #57
I think we need to be very careful with it Amishman Oct 2021 #16
Very good points CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #29
Fiercely opposed to immigration used by corporations Devil Child Oct 2021 #25
I have heard that argument before. I'm a little surprised at the anti-immigration sentiment here. Hoyt Oct 2021 #35
Life long union Democrat household Devil Child Oct 2021 #44
When immigrants come here they become american mathematic Oct 2021 #49
Was that quick hot-take fresh off the Dominoes CEO press release? Devil Child Oct 2021 #50
IMMIGRANTS ARE AMERICAN WORKERS mathematic Oct 2021 #54
When corporations source immigrant labor to undercut the collective bargaining power and wellfare Devil Child Oct 2021 #56
I have mixed feelings about this...honestly. I want to provide opportunities to those in other Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #36
We're about to be deluged with millions of desperate climate refugees NickB79 Oct 2021 #51
Well, glad we beat trump, but sounds like many are adopting his immigration policy. Hoyt Oct 2021 #52
Controlled immigration is not anti-immigrant Sympthsical Oct 2021 #58
Do you know who make immigrants the scapegoat? Hoyt Oct 2021 #60
Certainly not my job Sympthsical Oct 2021 #61
Sounds like a return to discrimination, but against people South of Border. Not for that, Sorry. Hoyt Oct 2021 #62
So, "Close the border!" - until you need cheap labor to exploit because you won't pay a living wage? Solly Mack Oct 2021 #5
I don't know this guys history but business typically likes more immigration. Renew Deal Oct 2021 #17
True. Solly Mack Oct 2021 #22
"We can't give better pay, working conditions and benefits to our employees," says Dominos sakabatou Oct 2021 #6
This jcmaine72 Oct 2021 #14
of course we could CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #30
"We won't pay wages which allow our employees to live with dignity; we need a more RockRaven Oct 2021 #7
And This jcmaine72 Oct 2021 #12
"We need more people that we an exploit, so we don't have to pay decent wages." nt Binkie The Clown Oct 2021 #8
And This Too jcmaine72 Oct 2021 #13
Most accurate quote. Devil Child Oct 2021 #24
I'm all for immigration! More Dem voters in the future Wanderlust988 Oct 2021 #11
And what if they don't vote Dem? jcmaine72 Oct 2021 #15
Good idea, but we'll need to inspect their votes ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author jcmaine72 Oct 2021 #65
We do need immigrants to work Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #20
This. CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #32
Our nations... inthewind21 Oct 2021 #64
No, pay native citizen workers fair living wage and they will show up to work Devil Child Oct 2021 #23
So you are against immigration? fescuerescue Oct 2021 #38
Im against immigration as a tool to oppress US workers Devil Child Oct 2021 #42
Even if the unemployment rate was 0% Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #41
For RWers, beating up on immigrants is all fun and games until it begins bullwinkle428 Oct 2021 #31
Right Wingers are FINALLY starting to understand fescuerescue Oct 2021 #37
Immigration AND better wages and work conditions. marmar Oct 2021 #39
Translation: Americans will no longer work for our low wages so we need to bring in people who will inwiththenew Oct 2021 #47
How about we reinstate slavery in the U.S.? Greybnk48 Oct 2021 #48
Because most people don't want to add mileage to their personal vehicle delivering pizzas Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 #53
How about this: PAY YOUR DAMN WORKERS AN ACTUAL LIVING WAGE! Initech Oct 2021 #55
Increased immigration AND a mandatory living wage pecosbob Oct 2021 #59
F*ck Domino's Deep State Witch Oct 2021 #63
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