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hlthe2b

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4. Two musicians who both were influenced by black blues musicians and both played with Muddy Waters...
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 08:57 PM
Oct 2021

One, the late Levon Helm was a Southerner through and through and was the only such member of his largely Canadian group, The Band. That said, there was never a racist bone in Levon's body. He was just genuinely a good guy and appreciative of the legacy left for him.

Then there was Eric Clapton, who likewise was highly influenced by these early African American blues musicians and likewise performed with Muddy Waters in the late 70s. How damned tragic that that is where the similarity to Levon Helm ends.

Truth be told, If I had to list my top ten rock songs of all time, Layla would surely be high on the list. I can credit Clapton for his musical contributions and incredible guitar ability (albeit, Layla would be nothing without the late Duane Allman's guitar contributions), but fully appreciate that Clapton is no hero.

Sad... really.

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Eric Clapton's SAD Final Act. [View all] CousinIT Oct 2021 OP
Anything after Layla, except for "Riding with the King", in my mind was pretty average ... marble falls Oct 2021 #1
Yeah. I won't buy his stuff again. Captain Zero Oct 2021 #3
And the inspiration for Layla... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #34
Wasn't Mac Davis's wife involved, too? marble falls Oct 2021 #48
Not to my recollection.... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #57
Mac's wife ran off with Glen Cambell at a round the same ... marble falls Oct 2021 #65
Thanks. SergeStorms Oct 2021 #69
I was so lucky in so many, many ways. I ducked more bullets than I ever had any reason to ... marble falls Oct 2021 #73
I think it was Marc Maron and Dean Delray who observed on their podcast Eliot Rosewater Oct 2021 #2
Two musicians who both were influenced by black blues musicians and both played with Muddy Waters... hlthe2b Oct 2021 #4
Levon Helm is considered almost a saint where I live ... Straw Man Oct 2021 #46
I've seen many a DUer take a defensive pragmatic political stance hlthe2b Oct 2021 #47
Like condoning a politician's overtly racist acts? Straw Man Oct 2021 #66
You did just that hlthe2b Oct 2021 #67
Please show me where I called Helm a racist. Straw Man Oct 2021 #72
Mostly Agree ProfessorGAC Oct 2021 #68
While time will expose one true nature Ferryboat Oct 2021 #5
What? here: 1976. Racist Rant. Voltaire2 Oct 2021 #70
Nearly 30 years later, given the opportunity to recant.... Spider Jerusalem Oct 2021 #74
kinda sad that consider_this Oct 2021 #6
Use this one next time...one of Phil's rare songs he sings on Lochloosa Oct 2021 #14
I love this video! SalviaBlue Oct 2021 #54
Saw them do it in St Pete, Fl 86 Lochloosa Oct 2021 #58
That is sad.. Clapton is the one who Cha Oct 2021 #7
Liked him when he played in Wynton Marsalis's Band. Corrine, Corrine...with Taj Maha;///// OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2021 #8
A closer walk with thee,,,,, OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2021 #11
Wow!Thought the stage might fall down under the weight of all that talent Walleye Oct 2021 #64
It is sad. Turbineguy Oct 2021 #9
Over the years, the more I have read Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #10
Correct. I still love van Morrison records Walleye Oct 2021 #13
Long time Van fan. As per my screen name. vanlassie Oct 2021 #25
I have every Van album and a lot of Clapton's too. I still listen, though Van's latest is the themaguffin Oct 2021 #59
Roger Daltrey is one of those rpannier Oct 2021 #17
And then there are the exceptions. tavernier Oct 2021 #28
UK has always been fully as racist stopdiggin Oct 2021 #31
Didn't Cream record a song written by Skip James to give him the royalt Walleye Oct 2021 #12
The Rolling Stones did that for a number of old Blues musicians. Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #18
I actually heard just the opposite. That the Stones were wont to crib blues songs without paying. shrike3 Oct 2021 #61
The Stones were influenced by the early Blues musicians Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #63
A music historian I heard interviewed said the bluesmen were credited by the Stones but never paid. shrike3 Oct 2021 #71
Yes, as a young musician Clapton was paying old bluesmen royalties. shrike3 Oct 2021 #62
Him and Van Morrison really make me sad. ismnotwasm Oct 2021 #15
That's it in a nutshell MustLoveBeagles Oct 2021 #16
Clapton relied on high register sustain way too much Bobstandard Oct 2021 #19
An even better comparison is his fellow Yardbird alum Jeff Beck relayerbob Oct 2021 #21
Right where I'm at. plimsoll Oct 2021 #24
OMG ee cummings! thucythucy Oct 2021 #50
Clapton peaked in 1969-70 relayerbob Oct 2021 #20
except that he's on record for saying stopdiggin Oct 2021 #36
Of course relayerbob Oct 2021 #39
Safety wasn't Claptons priority in life. StocktonNative Oct 2021 #22
This is not fair. vanlassie Oct 2021 #26
yes. hateful. and nothing whatever to do with stopdiggin Oct 2021 #37
Clapton could afford safety guards StocktonNative Oct 2021 #38
The housekeeper left the window open radical noodle Oct 2021 #40
No, not "enuff said." The parents were divorced. Clapton didn't live there. vanlassie Oct 2021 #41
Get real...Clapton could have ensured his child or anyone was safe. StocktonNative Oct 2021 #43
You are saying he should have known about the laws in his ex's city. vanlassie Oct 2021 #44
you sound like you have some unresolved daddy issues. mopinko Oct 2021 #49
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #23
fuck him - toxic ego is no excuse; we have the music - plenty - so cut his stupid ass loose bringthePaine Oct 2021 #27
I haven't thought much of him since he spewed this in 1976: catbyte Oct 2021 #29
Jeez that's horrible. Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #35
A couple of slurred n***** words would be bad enough. argyl Oct 2021 #45
In the flesh? dawg Oct 2021 #52
Cream was Cool... JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 #30
A great artist is not always a great person. Joinfortmill Oct 2021 #32
In real life...People reacted to Eric Fascist Rants StocktonNative Oct 2021 #33
Oh and speaking of Layla, the piano coda was stolen from Rita Coolidge unblock Oct 2021 #42
I guess I should have realized when you consider how many different bands he played with Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #51
Stevie Ray Vaughn pawns Clapton's Blues Guitar. Tommymac Oct 2021 #53
Back in the day, Clapton didn't just revere the bluesmen he covered, like other artists did. shrike3 Oct 2021 #55
He stopped being influential long ago Dukkha Oct 2021 #56
FWIW Layla was a masterpiece because of Duane Allman's spectacular guitar work...not Clapton's. pecosbob Oct 2021 #60
Eric Clapton was more than happy to have his photo taken with Greg Abbott. LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #75
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