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wellst0nev0ter

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11. Yep, it's basically just a handful of arsonists against the entire Democratic caucus plus Biden

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 03:03 AM

Oct 2021

Manchinema and maybe the 9 gottheimer gang.

They need to figure out that they are Democrats first and they were elected to make sure Biden's agenda is successful.

Why should the vast majority fold for the fanaticism of the vanishing few?

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Thanks Tonight for the Logical Progressives Who are Holding Out for the Future of the World [View all] JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 OP

For me it isn't we so much as all of us ... hold out for KPN Oct 2021 #1

Their determination NJCher Oct 2021 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #3

This has been covered on DU multiple times TiberiusB Oct 2021 #6

+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #14

that is what the poster means, 'support the Biden plan', which is what the vast majority of all Celerity Oct 2021 #19

They could end up with nothing. everyonematters Oct 2021 #4

If we end up with nothing wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #10

So a bridge collapses somewhere and people get killed. everyonematters Oct 2021 #18

that is all on the tiny splinter group of obstructionist conservadems, not on the vast majority Celerity Oct 2021 #20

Tell that to the swing voters who see a party that can't get out of it's own way. everyonematters Oct 2021 #22

Biden himself disagrees with you Celerity Oct 2021 #23

He is already letting Pelosi split the bills for seperate votes. everyonematters Oct 2021 #24

but he said no to a vote atm on the bi-partisan bill, not until there is an agreement Celerity Oct 2021 #25

I think we still have a chance to win the midterms and expand the majority. everyonematters Oct 2021 #26

IF we don't pass the majority of the reconciliation bill, we're likely to be torn apart badly in the Celerity Oct 2021 #29

The reality is - everyonematters Oct 2021 #41

You must not be watching the news $2.2 trillion is the compromise number that just came out of the Celerity Oct 2021 #42

Looks like both sides are negotiating and compromising. everyonematters Oct 2021 #43

no one on any side ever said all or nothing, there are a few with agendas who disingenuously Celerity Oct 2021 #44

The "Swing Voter" supports the BBB bill wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #35

The OP apparently is about the House vote, or lack of so far. So who are the "obstructionists".... George II Oct 2021 #36

We're talking about the reconciliation bill, champ wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #38

I really don't care about the specifics nvme Oct 2021 #5

Nope, if they cave in that reconciliation bill is likely to be horribly shredded up just Celerity Oct 2021 #7

Yep, it's basically just a handful of arsonists against the entire Democratic caucus plus Biden wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #11

The real irony is that the bipartisan bill has only $550 billion new spending on programmes and Celerity Oct 2021 #13

What could possibly go wrong with supporting a bill backed by Mitch McConnell? TiberiusB Oct 2021 #9

Do we only pass bills that will help in the next election more than a year away? That's not.... George II Oct 2021 #31

I am a moderate supporting the progressive caucus on this one. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #12

In my opinion ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #16

Exactly. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #17

I am a left leaning Democrat supporting the leadership of the Democratic Party in both Houses..... George II Oct 2021 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #15

Yes, pass his $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill (or as close to that as we can get) Celerity Oct 2021 #21

"Conservadems"? George II Oct 2021 #30

100% obstruction, zero bipartisan Republicans. But "conservadems." betsuni Oct 2021 #32

Usually, progressives in congress have to go along to get along.. Patton French Oct 2021 #27

How is nothing better than something? George II Oct 2021 #28

This is what I'd like to know. betsuni Oct 2021 #33

+1 treestar Oct 2021 #37

Ideological purity. Must. Have. Ideological. Purity. BannonsLiver Oct 2021 #40

LOL BannonsLiver Oct 2021 #39