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NNadir

(36,780 posts)
48. I'm very pleased to learn that reality is wonderful. The West Coast is on fire, but it's not...
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 07:07 PM
Jul 2021

...about you, is it?

In fact, I didn't even realize that this precious bit of wisdom about the Mississippi River was yours, but thanks for pointing it out. I was typing on a cell phone, while waiting for a meeting.

I am decidedly not "trying" to "insult" you. I am simply drawing reference to your opinion, with which I obviously, based on long education, hard work, and careful reading, I disagree.

I have probably written in my journal on this site, hundreds of technical articles based on readings in the scientific literature to support my positions on the environment. I'm sure you didn't mean to insult me when you informed me that scientists are very narrow minded people.

My journal is here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/~NNadir

It speaks for itself, just as what you write and say speaks for itself.

Your post on the "narrowness of scientists" would be this one:

I'm afraid your viewpoint is far too narrow for me

to take seriously. You are talking about technical issues, which are important of course. But you ignore the fundamental issue that drives it all. Science often sees things from a very narrow perspective, focused on a particular discipline. That is what I'm seeing in your rant.

Note: All posts written by me are my opinion only. Your opinion might differ. I do not normally respond to DU Mail. If I reply with two dots (..), each dot stands for a word. You can choose the words.


I added the emphasis.

I. Don't. Care. What. You. See. In. My. "Rant." I don't care about your dots, your response to DU mails, but I do care about "opinions" held by anyone that hurt other people. I contend that opposing nuclear energy kills people. I couldn't be more clear on that than I am.

In stating this, I agree with another one of those "narrow" scientists, Jim Hansen:

Prevented Mortality and Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Historical and Projected Nuclear Power (Pushker A. Kharecha* and James E. Hansen Environ. Sci. Technol., 2013, 47 (9), pp 4889–4895)

Now, Dr. Hansen wrote a wonderful book, called "Storms of My Grandchildren"

It's very clear, as you noted yesterday, that you are one of the best people in the world because you chose not to have children.

Clearly, Dr. Hansen is a lesser being than you, since the title of his book implies he has grandchildren.

But no matter.

If disagreeing with you on an issue I've spent studying intensely over three decades is "insulting" you, well, what can I possibly say?

Do I need to be "nice" and defer to your wisdom? Did you have some wisdom I missed?

Perhaps you think I should shoot my two sons to be as noble as you told me you are because you cared so much about the environment that you remained childless. I concede that my sons are consuming resources that could be used to power moving trucks.

One of my sons is a highly trained engineer, taking graduate courses based on a Presidential Scholar award, and now looking to enter another graduate school to study the materials science aspects of nuclear energy. My other son, when he graduated as an artist was surrounded by the faculty at the reception, all of whom wanted to remark on how talented he was to his parents, my wife and I.

Narrow as I am, I did raise an artist as well as another narrow unidimensional scientist/engineer.

Somehow, I think these young men are more critical to the world than a childless man of my awful generation who writes very amusing and informative posts about real estate deals, moving trucks, and his parents lives and deaths. This kind of color is pleasing to the eye of course, but writing it doesn't not excuse indifference to the future while navel gazing.

I had parents too, as it turns out, both of whom have been dead for decades, neither living to their 90s. I have, in fact, outlived them both. My mother died at 51 from a brain tumor probably generated as a result of occupational exposure. I got over it. Perhaps you're glad she got out of the way and stopped consuming resources, since the existence of my sons offends you.

To wit:

I find it interesting that you mention your "little brat" in the post above.

Below, I replied to your initial post, linking climate change to global population growth. That is the root cause of it, regardless of technological causes. Demand by the global population for energy, for whatever reason, is why we are burning so much fossil fuel.

I bring this up because you have apparently contributed to the growth of the global population, by your own admission.

I did not. In 1965, I made a pledge not to reproduce, due to the clear impact of global population grown. I have fulfilled that pledge. I have no "little brats." At age 75, I'm certain that I will not add any offspring to the flood of humanity. Yet, global population continues to grow, does it not?

Think on that, if you please.

Note: All posts written by me are my opinion only. Your opinion might differ. I do not normally respond to DU Mail. If I reply with two dots (..), each dot stands for a word. You can choose the words.


You seem to believe I should deign to have my thinking directed by you.

You, of course, are above insulting people, just as you are above breeding.

I had other things to do with my life than worry about moving my parents furniture after they died. I lived my whole life that way. I'm not leaving my kids a house, a car, and a big pile of money, but I am leaving them ideas because I care about the future, not about writing or executing my will or for that matter, nobly sparing the world my two sons as an act of ersatz environmentalism.

If you find these objections an act of contempt, you are freely entitled to do so, and who knows, it may be popular to do that, but I regard opposition to nuclear power by anyone as criminal, for reasons I have elaborated for a long time on this and other websites and covered in my journal with literally thousands of references to the primary scientific literature.

I'm not supporting nuclear energy to be popular. I'm supporting it because it's the right thing to do.

My biggest regret in life is the part I took, when I was fairly uneducated and stupid, in opposing the Shoreham nuclear plant and the second Seabrook reactor. My ignorance killed people.

No one, not even me, is so old as to be unable to look away from the mirror into the broader world. I find people who spend their days looking in the mirror to be disinteresting, and should any person find that remark to be insulting, this says something about who and what he or she is than it says about who and what I am.

Recommendations

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What's nuke energy cost plus de-commisioning? OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #1
Well, let's look at it this way... NNadir Jul 2021 #2
3 sentences max please. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #3
I've always found Mr. Nadir's Information on point and very useful. Please rethink..... RussellCattle Jul 2021 #5
No. If you want laziness, on a matter of critical importance to humanity, climate change... NNadir Jul 2021 #8
Keep Diablo Canyon open. roamer65 Jul 2021 #4
One of the dumbest movies ever made. NNadir Jul 2021 #9
Hollywood makes lots of informative documentaries about gun fights and car chases as well... hunter Jul 2021 #10
The physics of "The China Syndrome" is even more absurd... NNadir Jul 2021 #11
All that fucking radioactive waste is getting shipped to NM womanofthehills Jul 2021 #6
Woman of these hills? hunter Jul 2021 #7
Why not wind and solar with nuclear back-up power? Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #13
I think they did a good job of explaining this already. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2021 #19
But it is still centralized, and not very flexible, yes? Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #28
Yeah, but I don't think is an issue of nuclear vs. wind/solar Act_of_Reparation Jul 2021 #38
Nuclear power makes these wind plants unnecessary. hunter Jul 2021 #22
Where I live there is very little undevloped land... Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #29
Thank you. jeffreyi Jul 2021 #31
I Lived In Lancaster Co., PA For 25 Years - Where Three Mile Island Is Located Jim G. Jul 2021 #12
With all due respect... Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #14
And Yet Three Mile Island Is Still Active Today Jim G. Jul 2021 #15
There are certainly some older plants.... Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #34
An expensive accident but not comparable to, for example, the Deepwater Horizon disaster... hunter Jul 2021 #18
I'm With You, Except... ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #39
Get any extra heads? NNadir Jul 2021 #23
While I Don't Advocate For Coal Or Any Other Fossil Fuels... Jim G. Jul 2021 #25
I lived less than 10 miles from TMI when it occured Cosmocat Jul 2021 #24
Interesting that you don't mention the Hosgri and Shoreline earthquake faults Tom Rinaldo Jul 2021 #16
The risk associated with this issue compares with the risk of... NNadir Jul 2021 #17
For the sake of clarity, you advocated for Diablo Canyon specifically here. Tom Rinaldo Jul 2021 #21
Yes, that's right. NNadir Jul 2021 #27
I'm sure that you've changed a few minds about nuclear power plants over the..... RussellCattle Jul 2021 #35
Interestingly enough, I served on a jury in a trial of a bunch of protesters MineralMan Jul 2021 #37
I didn't get arrested. I knew a few people who did. hunter Jul 2021 #42
I remember the reactor meltdown at Santa Susana there. MineralMan Jul 2021 #45
I was watching when they hauled it away. hunter Jul 2021 #47
Thank you! NurseJackie Jul 2021 #33
I'm pretty sure the Nazca lines didn't ruin the southern Peruvian plains. denbot Jul 2021 #20
If you are cooking with gas that's a greater danger to you than Fukushima. hunter Jul 2021 #26
Sounds like gridlock RussBLib Jul 2021 #30
Lulz. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #32
So, How Many New Nuclear Power Plants Are under Construction in the USA? MineralMan Jul 2021 #36
Enacting a stupid policy does not make it less stupid. NNadir Jul 2021 #41
However, it reflects reality. MineralMan Jul 2021 #44
I'm very pleased to learn that reality is wonderful. The West Coast is on fire, but it's not... NNadir Jul 2021 #48
Replacing the Diablo Canyon power plant with a gas plant will be yet another crime against humanity. hunter Jul 2021 #46
About those transmission lines bringing in electricity from Oregon: mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #40
What do you want to know about HVDC? hunter Jul 2021 #43
What surprises me about it is how old the technology is. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #49
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