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NNadir

(36,834 posts)
27. Yes, that's right.
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 11:37 AM
Jul 2021

I stand by my remarks. There has been one earthquake related destruction of a nuclear complex by a geological event. People like to act as if the 20,000 people who died in that event were killed by radiation from the plant.

The reality is that practically everyone who died, did so from seawater, not radiation. If it "proves" anything, it proves that coastal cities are "too dangerous."

I do regard the selective attention as ignorant since it is a fact that seawater killed more people than radiation.

Facts matter, and do so far more that speculation.

At Fukushima, diesel engine failure from seawater was a root cause of the melt down. This problem can be engineered away. My favorite solution would include using residual heat from used nuclear fuel or its constituents in the ever improving thermoelectric devices. Bathed in seawater would have improved the thermodynamic efficiency of the devices, which have no moving parts.

Air crashes have killed more people than nuclear plants but they are not phased out when they fail. Rather engineers improve their design.

I have heard all this rhetoric before, of course. I lived in California when Diablo Canyon was being built, and in fact was a dumbass antinuke at the time. Happily for me, when I looked into Chernobyl which established the worst case, it occurred to me, using something called "critical thinking " that the worst nuclear case was trivial when compared to the observed reality of climate change in the best case.

Your scary "if" statements do not dissuade me from observing what "is." Closing Diablo Canyon remains for me a crime against humanity. It will kill people who do not need to die.

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What's nuke energy cost plus de-commisioning? OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #1
Well, let's look at it this way... NNadir Jul 2021 #2
3 sentences max please. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #3
I've always found Mr. Nadir's Information on point and very useful. Please rethink..... RussellCattle Jul 2021 #5
No. If you want laziness, on a matter of critical importance to humanity, climate change... NNadir Jul 2021 #8
Keep Diablo Canyon open. roamer65 Jul 2021 #4
One of the dumbest movies ever made. NNadir Jul 2021 #9
Hollywood makes lots of informative documentaries about gun fights and car chases as well... hunter Jul 2021 #10
The physics of "The China Syndrome" is even more absurd... NNadir Jul 2021 #11
All that fucking radioactive waste is getting shipped to NM womanofthehills Jul 2021 #6
Woman of these hills? hunter Jul 2021 #7
Why not wind and solar with nuclear back-up power? Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #13
I think they did a good job of explaining this already. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2021 #19
But it is still centralized, and not very flexible, yes? Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #28
Yeah, but I don't think is an issue of nuclear vs. wind/solar Act_of_Reparation Jul 2021 #38
Nuclear power makes these wind plants unnecessary. hunter Jul 2021 #22
Where I live there is very little undevloped land... Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #29
Thank you. jeffreyi Jul 2021 #31
I Lived In Lancaster Co., PA For 25 Years - Where Three Mile Island Is Located Jim G. Jul 2021 #12
With all due respect... Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #14
And Yet Three Mile Island Is Still Active Today Jim G. Jul 2021 #15
There are certainly some older plants.... Happy Hoosier Jul 2021 #34
An expensive accident but not comparable to, for example, the Deepwater Horizon disaster... hunter Jul 2021 #18
I'm With You, Except... ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #39
Get any extra heads? NNadir Jul 2021 #23
While I Don't Advocate For Coal Or Any Other Fossil Fuels... Jim G. Jul 2021 #25
I lived less than 10 miles from TMI when it occured Cosmocat Jul 2021 #24
Interesting that you don't mention the Hosgri and Shoreline earthquake faults Tom Rinaldo Jul 2021 #16
The risk associated with this issue compares with the risk of... NNadir Jul 2021 #17
For the sake of clarity, you advocated for Diablo Canyon specifically here. Tom Rinaldo Jul 2021 #21
Yes, that's right. NNadir Jul 2021 #27
I'm sure that you've changed a few minds about nuclear power plants over the..... RussellCattle Jul 2021 #35
Interestingly enough, I served on a jury in a trial of a bunch of protesters MineralMan Jul 2021 #37
I didn't get arrested. I knew a few people who did. hunter Jul 2021 #42
I remember the reactor meltdown at Santa Susana there. MineralMan Jul 2021 #45
I was watching when they hauled it away. hunter Jul 2021 #47
Thank you! NurseJackie Jul 2021 #33
I'm pretty sure the Nazca lines didn't ruin the southern Peruvian plains. denbot Jul 2021 #20
If you are cooking with gas that's a greater danger to you than Fukushima. hunter Jul 2021 #26
Sounds like gridlock RussBLib Jul 2021 #30
Lulz. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #32
So, How Many New Nuclear Power Plants Are under Construction in the USA? MineralMan Jul 2021 #36
Enacting a stupid policy does not make it less stupid. NNadir Jul 2021 #41
However, it reflects reality. MineralMan Jul 2021 #44
I'm very pleased to learn that reality is wonderful. The West Coast is on fire, but it's not... NNadir Jul 2021 #48
Replacing the Diablo Canyon power plant with a gas plant will be yet another crime against humanity. hunter Jul 2021 #46
About those transmission lines bringing in electricity from Oregon: mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #40
What do you want to know about HVDC? hunter Jul 2021 #43
What surprises me about it is how old the technology is. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #49
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