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In reply to the discussion: And Then There Were Three: Third Grand Jury Refuser Goes to Prison [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)We don't know if this is solely about the May Day vandalism or if it's about a number of similar incidents including or not including that one. And if it is solely investigating that one day what difference does it make if the people in question where there are not? For all we know some of these people may have been subpoenaed to testify about planning or other organizational stuff... these anarchist black bloc kiddies don't just show up willy nilly on their own at nearly any sizable protest without some kind of planning and organization going on. Also, what difference does it make if the jury was convened in March if they're investigating other incidents or if this was a grand jury that was already seated? As far as I remember, fed grand juries are convened periodically and serve X amount of time (unless the time is requested to be extended which sometimes happens especially if the jury is in the middle of a big case) and handle many potential cases during that X amount of service time. I definitely recall one of the paralegals I worked with years ago had to do her duty on a grand jury for 6 months or thereabouts and they generally met a couple of times a week to deal with a number of cases... whatever came up during that time. We also don't have any idea who was subpoenaed to testify, their political affiliation, and since it's secret, why they would have been subpoenaed... certainly, witnesses to the vandalism would be subpoened to testify that had nothing to do with it but saw it occur. Believe it or not witnesses to crimes are a staple of grand jury subpoenas and testimony.
On what basis you conclude that this is NOT a legitimate venture I can't fathom. What I also can't fathom is why in the world anyone has any compassion for these people that refuse to testify. We all HAVE to testify when summoned to do so by a court, and since this one young woman in particular was granted immunity for her testimony she bloody well should go to jail if she refuses to give it. Being granted immunity absolves her of any criminal involvement so that she can't be charged for it. Immunity is a bargain made by the court when they want someone's testimony badly enough, and you better believe she was made to sign on the dotted line accepting it if she wanted that immunity. Despite that cushy deal she didn't hold up her end of the bargain by testifying.
I really don't get this hero worship for a bunch of vandals that have no real agenda other than making mayhem during any kind of protest or sizable event as cover that greatly increases the likelihood that they won't get caught and which also makes it appear that it is the legitimate peaceful protesters that are responsible because that's exactly what these rotten little shits do. They just like to use the label anarchist to give the appearance that they're something other than just obnoxious little shit vandals whose sole agenda is to cause mayhem getting their jollies out of smashing store windows, overturning peoples' cars, setting trash dumpsters on fire and all the other criminal mischief that gives them a giggle. Fuck. Them.
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