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Tom Rinaldo

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20. Who knows what he might have accepted IF the Senate parliamentarian gave a green light to inclusion
Sat Mar 6, 2021, 06:25 PM
Mar 2021

At that point Sanders and everyone else who wanted a $15 and hour minimum wage increase would have been involved in intense behind the scenes negotiations within the Democratic caucus with the likes of Sinema and Manchin. None of us can say what the end game would have looked like in that scenario, and the degree to which the public posture taken by Sanders, Manchin and others were part of initial bargaining positions.

The Senate parliamentarian ruled against including a minimum wage increase in the Covid relief bill and Democrats lacked the votes in the Senate to over rule her. Even Biden was signaling that the game was up for including a minimum wage increase into the relief bill at that point. Bernie not initially agreeing to $11 an hour with Manchin, in discussions that preceded the actual debate on amendments, might have built pressure for both of them signing off on $12.50 as a compromise in the final hours if any increase had been possible. However all of that is moot. NO raise was possible in that bill, not to $9, not to $11, not to $15.

If you really want to blame someone for blocking inclusion of any size minimum wage increase in the Covid Relief Bill that just passed through reconciliation, it is more logical to blame our President than Bernie for that. Biden always signaled that he would accept the ruling of the Senate parliamentarian and seemingly made no effort to lobby Democratic Senators to over rule her decision. Biden holds more sway over Democratic Senators, especially moderate ones, than Sanders ever will. To be clear, I do not in any way blame Biden, he always knew that there would not be 50 Democratic votes in the Senate to over rule the Senate parliamentarian.

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Just make it equal to the buying power of the original minimum wage: about $15.00/hr. marble falls Mar 2021 #1
Sure, great idea. Can you, as Captain Picard would say, "make it so"? Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #2
That's exactly how it's going to happen in the end. Just like Medicare happened, like SSI happened . marble falls Mar 2021 #5
Agreed. Meanwhile I was envisioning how millions of workers could get their first raise NOW Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #8
The buying power of the original minimum wage is about $4.64 GregariousGroundhog Mar 2021 #17
Of course in 1968 "they" said the minimum wage was to help teenagers get trained on their 1st job Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #24
Typo. The min wage would have reached $15 in 2022/23 IIRC...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #3
Where do you get that. I keep seeing 2025 Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #6
You may be right, but your post reads 2015... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #7
Aha! So it did, in one place yes... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #9
The prior House bill isn't really relevant. TwilightZone Mar 2021 #4
AMERICAN CongressPersons and Senators should be mandated N E 1 Mar 2021 #10
I understand what you're saying DesertRat Mar 2021 #15
An Excellent Idea, And A Sound Policy, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2021 #11
Raise the Wage Act 2021 Schedule: Donkees Mar 2021 #12
Thanks for that info. I didn't know where to look for it... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #13
Bernie introduced this same bill in the last Congress, but McConnell just stalled it ... Donkees Mar 2021 #14
Modest proposal: Stop listening to Sanders saying what is possible. Hortensis Mar 2021 #16
Yes, slipping a minimum wage increase into a defense spending bill is probably the easiest route GregariousGroundhog Mar 2021 #18
:) Ah, 1968 (actually 69). I was paid $0.13/hour as a 17-year-old waitress Hortensis Mar 2021 #19
Who knows what he might have accepted IF the Senate parliamentarian gave a green light to inclusion Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #20
If we'd disregarded the parliamentarian, it would have gone to a vote Hortensis Mar 2021 #23
Self Delete. Mistakenly posted n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #21
Self Delete. Mistakenly posted n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2021 #22
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