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marie999

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49. The United States was never set up to be a democracy there isn't any exact name for our government

Mon Oct 19, 2020, 02:43 PM

Oct 2020

but constitutional democratic republic is use. In order to get the smaller states to join the union, they had to give power to the states along giving power to the people. Most of what Congress does takes both houses of Congress. The extra power of the Senate is solely advise and consent on cabinet members and judges for The Supreme Court and vote if the House impeaches. The House has sole power of impeachment and all bills for raising revenue originate in the House. The Senate can make changes but both have to agree. Yes North Dakota has the same number of Senators as New York but New York has many more representation in the House. So no we do not have total imbalance of power.

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Another reason to eliminate the Electorial College [View all] irisblue Oct 2020 OP

I don't like the EC. But we will never get rid of it. Thus we need to learn how to use it to Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #1

I can see removal as a long term goal. irisblue Oct 2020 #3

I understand. But I believe you have to have realistic goals. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #27

Consider the time it took for the 17th Amendment to happen irisblue Oct 2020 #31

That one sucks really Polybius Oct 2020 #35

I thought it was the state legislatures that decided Senators before, not US house Hamlette Oct 2020 #39

Not worth complaining about; it's not going anywhere. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #2

Not worth complaining about a fundamental problem with our democracy? Yeehah Oct 2020 #5

Sure, complain about it. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #7

I disagree Yeehah Oct 2020 #10

Sure, if you want to lose elections. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #12

LMAO! Lose elections!? Yeehah Oct 2020 #15

So, you have no real plan. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #53

We do not now nor will in the near future have 2/3 of the House and Senate. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #28

Why would any Republican vote for this? Polybius Oct 2020 #36

I say we get that amendment ready Bettie Oct 2020 #46

States could always pass a law sboatcar Oct 2020 #20

2016 election, what states did trump win that had a Democratic legislature marie999 Oct 2020 #25

The Constitution Article I Section 10 Clause 3 marie999 Oct 2020 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Oct 2020 #4

Getting rid of the Electoral College is not going to happen Locutusofborg Oct 2020 #6

Of course it could happen Yeehah Oct 2020 #11

You think threatening states will convince them to abandon the EC? TwilightZone Oct 2020 #13

In order to eliminate the Electoral College Locutusofborg Oct 2020 #41

it can be eliminated without an amendment Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #44

There has been no confirmation that that would provide legal status. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #54

You've lost half the population of NYS Retrograde Oct 2020 #8

Maybe the EC can't be eliminated, but it can be neutered Poiuyt Oct 2020 #9

The states who won't agree to get rid of the EC are the same ones... TwilightZone Oct 2020 #14

Mostly true but Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #19

not true. An amendment requires 3/5 of all states. The compact only requires enough states to reach Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #45

The Constitution Article 1 Section 10 Clause 3 marie999 Oct 2020 #56

Fewer states are required for the compact. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #51

Amendments require 3/4 of all states, not 3/5. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #52

Until it's thrown out by this Supreme Court n/t Polybius Oct 2020 #37

Add DC and PR to statehood AlexSFCA Oct 2020 #16

Ford and PR Statehood, December 1976 irisblue Oct 2020 #17

Do the people of Puerto Rico want statehood? JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #21

they will have to vote on it AlexSFCA Oct 2020 #22

They voted for statehood so can become a state at anytime. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #29

You don't need another argument; you need political clout. brooklynite Oct 2020 #18

The best reason to correct the constitution to reapportion senators according to population. BComplex Oct 2020 #23

Again that won't happen either. It was done that way on purpose so smaller states would have a say. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #30

It needs to be fixed, and all but a tiny handful of people think it's fine the way it is. And, of BComplex Oct 2020 #32

the constitution explicitly forbids that. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #47

The Constitution was written that way so the people would have a greater say in the House marie999 Oct 2020 #24

No they wouldn't treestar Oct 2020 #26

What I wrote is not about the EC. marie999 Oct 2020 #43

As of now, Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #33

It's time that most of the people (majority) had more control over the country. BComplex Oct 2020 #34

The United States was never set up to be a democracy there isn't any exact name for our government marie999 Oct 2020 #49

It was written also to only allow white propertied males to vote. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #48

the only way to fix it is to move to deep red states. Hamlette Oct 2020 #38

Go after the Permanent Reapportionment Act of 1929 as being unconstitutional instead littleredhen Oct 2020 #40

The founders never intended a minoritarian system. radius777 Oct 2020 #42

And that retrograde minority; they've learned to weaponize the constitution in their favor. BComplex Oct 2020 #50