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ehrnst

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34. Not in a crisis like the one we are in. You don't send in a rookie

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:37 PM

Jul 2020

to do the job of the expert, which we need right now to battle for our very Democracy.

I suppose you'd prefer a newly minted doc doing surgery on you than someone who has decades of experience, and a record of success?

I highly doubt it.

Our country is in need of someone who knows where the bodies are buried, a very thorough knowledge of procedure and GOP dirty tricks and has no ambitions higher than the position they have.

Besides, AOC and Ayanna Pressley have both come around to understanding that Speaker Pelosi is the best person for the job right now, even if Madame Speaker has been too effective for some people to trust. Powerful, effective women are often suspected of doing nefarious things rather than earning their authority, especially by those on the far right and far left, sadly

Madame Speaker is a powerful advocate for women, and knows what she's doing. Never fear.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/508692-pelosi-theres-no-limit-to-the-disrespect-of-women

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The Rude Pundit: AOC Fucks the Patriarchy's Shit Up [View all] babylonsister Jul 2020 OP

Seriously Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was brilliant malaise Jul 2020 #1

These cro-magons will be shutting the fuck up in fear of having their words read into the record. 😂 TheBlackAdder Jul 2020 #110

Good malaise Jul 2020 #112

..... Hotler Jul 2020 #2

I want to REC this a dozen times! I was jumping up and down in my shelter-at-home sanctuary... Guilded Lilly Jul 2020 #3

Add mine. And I'll forward it on to plenty of others. erronis Jul 2020 #6

you are chelebrating with us. AllaN01Bear Jul 2020 #7

Oh Hell YES! Raster Jul 2020 #77

K&R Docreed2003 Jul 2020 #4

AOC rocks!!! Mad_Dem_X Jul 2020 #5

touche AllaN01Bear Jul 2020 #8

Hubs & I were just saying this... Duppers Jul 2020 #9

Brilliant. volstork Jul 2020 #10

Rude was a little more explicit than I was ladym55 Jul 2020 #11

These young women like her and the squad will save this country. Give them the reins. Autumn Jul 2020 #12

+1000! n/t PandoraAwakened Jul 2020 #27

With some more experience, yes. We have an excellent Speaker at the reins, and need all the ehrnst Jul 2020 #30

Fresh ideas are better than 30 years of experience. nt Autumn Jul 2020 #33

Not in a crisis like the one we are in. You don't send in a rookie ehrnst Jul 2020 #34

She's no rookie and she's got a lot of sense. One of the best. nt Autumn Jul 2020 #35

She's a freshman. That's the definition of rookie. ehrnst Jul 2020 #36

I agree, and maybe you should stop discounting all women. I find that my young Dr is more Autumn Jul 2020 #37

When did I "discount all women?" ehrnst Jul 2020 #38

Why would I go to a celebrity doctor? That's a dumb question, and I told you I am fine with Autumn Jul 2020 #39

Still avoiding the question, I see, by moving the goalposts ehrnst Jul 2020 #40

It wasn't awkward at all answering your question. I'm fine with a young Dr, that has only a couple Autumn Jul 2020 #44

How does that square with wanting AOC and the Squad to "take the reins?" ehrnst Jul 2020 #47

That wasn't your question, and you don't get another. If you're confused about "take the reins" Autumn Jul 2020 #48

Actually it was, and you're still trying to avoid answering it ehrnst Jul 2020 #50

No ehrnst, your question was : Autumn Jul 2020 #51

Actually, you tried to respond about a GP, not a surgeon, which was the question. ehrnst Jul 2020 #53

This is an open discussion board, a Democratic one. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #55

I made the choice to respond, I pointed out that I answered one and won't answer another. Autumn Jul 2020 #58

"Fresh ideas are better than 30 years experience" BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2020 #72

Do you know Nancy Pelosi has been in office 23 years? Yes, you took it wrong. I picked a random Autumn Jul 2020 #78

I don't think I took your comment wrong. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2020 #82

It takes fresh ideas, experience, and MORE... Trueblue Texan Jul 2020 #83

Indeed. We all want someone very familiar with the road and dangers "holding the reins." (nt) ehrnst Jul 2020 #85

Very well said. StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #121

You said AOC should "take the reins" - and Speaker Pelosi currently has those reins. ehrnst Jul 2020 #84

I'm very open about my admiration for AOC and I have been open about supporting Nancy. Autumn Jul 2020 #88

"Open to being open...." ehrnst Jul 2020 #92

Don't diss Democrats who have fought the fight for decades la-trucker Jul 2020 #122

Maybe you should take your own advice Lordquinton Jul 2020 #171

It doesn't seem out of place to me. la-trucker Jul 2020 #175

Nancy Pelosi took office in the House in April, 1987 - 33 years ago... George II Jul 2020 #144

+1000. One need a thorough knowledge of House procedure and the GOP in order to come up with ehrnst Jul 2020 #151

That is how I took it as well. No respect for Speaker Pelosi at all. la-trucker Jul 2020 #120

Interesting point you made, Autumn. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #66

Why would I be seeing a celebrity Dr? Talking about belittling women and DU ing better sheshe Autumn Jul 2020 #146

It's still not working. ehrnst Jul 2020 #150

That question isn't "belittling women", it appears to be an honest request for information.... George II Jul 2020 #153

Right... Autumn Jul 2020 #155

It's great to see you agree! ehrnst Jul 2020 #157

Glad you agree. Unless you don't, in which case you let us know how that question "belittles women"? George II Jul 2020 #158

You may want to try something else... ehrnst Jul 2020 #161

I believe that's the first time in my life I've seen a woman accused of "discounting all women"! George II Jul 2020 #145

Well, when one has no argument left, often one sets up a strawman to attack to save face. ehrnst Jul 2020 #147

I agree with you. TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #52

Yes Speaker Pelosi is amazing Gothmog Jul 2020 #81

Who is "no rookie"? Customarily a person in his/her first term is referred to as a "rookie". George II Jul 2020 #54

Actually, as a first-term Member, she is exactly a rookie StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #94

Actually, rookie is a sports term. AOC is a freshman. If anyone takes over as leader after Nancy I Autumn Jul 2020 #97

And "freshman" is term for high school and college students that, like "rookie" is now used in other StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #98

People grow into things and IMO she has shown that she has that ability and more. nt Autumn Jul 2020 #99

She certainly may have the ability, but I doubt she has the interest or inclination StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #104

I disagree but I'm not here to argue with you, I'm just here to voice my opinion. nt Autumn Jul 2020 #105

She is a rookie. She has not passed a single peace of legislation that she introduced. la-trucker Jul 2020 #118

I love hyperboles, especially Sunday nights. SpaceNeedle Jul 2020 #123

Don't we all. I like them on Mondays. nt Autumn Jul 2020 #139

I think AOC has the right ideas JonLP24 Jul 2020 #89

Perhaps right ideas for twitter and sycophants la-trucker Jul 2020 #119

No, Pelosi is criticized daily here on DU. ehrnst Jul 2020 #156

+1 betsuni Jul 2020 #159

.... betsuni Jul 2020 #75

There are no "fresh ideas" GeorgiaPeanut Jul 2020 #116

Yes, there are no "fresh ideas." betsuni Jul 2020 #176

The Democratic Party is so lucky to have a leader like Speaker Pelosi Gothmog Jul 2020 #80

Our current Speaker and Committee Chairs are doing a great job. George II Jul 2020 #45

Did I say they weren't George? No I did not. My post was about AOC, the squad and the future. nt Autumn Jul 2020 #46

You said give them the reins. The only "reins" available are the Speakership or Comm Chairs. George II Jul 2020 #49

Some people will be gone in a few short years and I think it drives them nuts... Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2020 #60

That's a fact. They are the future of this country and the party. It's their future and their world Autumn Jul 2020 #61

Although Yoho apologized to AOC, I wonder if his feelings about her changed TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #64

I do not think so. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #74

+1000 ehrnst Jul 2020 #90

👍🏾 BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2020 #138

And some people boo a great Democrat, Hillary Clinton GeorgiaPeanut Jul 2020 #124

Didn't we also hear that enough 2016 voters would be dead R B Garr Jul 2020 #131

So very true. PandoraAwakened Jul 2020 #178

Actually, that whole primary process forced AOC to admit R B Garr Jul 2020 #180

On point! egduj Jul 2020 #108

... DenverJared Jul 2020 #117

They are the future Lordquinton Jul 2020 #172

Every young generation is the future of the country. betsuni Jul 2020 #174

K&R Thanks for posting. alwaysinasnit Jul 2020 #13

K&R for R.P. Martin Eden Jul 2020 #14

And push comes to shove and AOC can kick his foul-mouthed ass. Pepsidog Jul 2020 #15

Good! Please proceed AOC and others. pandr32 Jul 2020 #16

Righteous Ponietz Jul 2020 #17

K&R n/t Kitchari Jul 2020 #18

Thank You! Well said. Cozmo Jul 2020 #19

Kick and Rec...nt cayugafalls Jul 2020 #20

AOC's speech was a thing of beauty and power cp Jul 2020 #21

K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #22

"Nevertheless she persisted" -- AOC is right in there persisting!! tazmaniac Jul 2020 #23

It is so nice to be able to read posts about AOC where I can actually read the responses. demmiblue Jul 2020 #24

AOC blueseas Jul 2020 #25

Over 50% of the adult population of the USA is female. patphil Jul 2020 #26

I drew my do not cross this line stance when I was about lunatica Jul 2020 #28

Respect is a quality that is earned. TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #57

Respect is more than just liking someone. lunatica Jul 2020 #62

I guess that the question becomes TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #63

he is the one who doesn't deserve any respect Kali Jul 2020 #68

So in conclusion, neither representative respects the other and nothing was earned by either. TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #69

You're right. It doesn't. DFW Jul 2020 #76

AOC has entered the lack of respect shown to women into the lunatica Jul 2020 #96

She didn't call him a "fucking bitch," though. So there's that. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 2020 #179

It's disgusting, but it's AOC. Some seem to think she deserved it. Autumn Jul 2020 #181

I believe disrespect is a quality to be earned... LanternWaste Jul 2020 #113

In that case, I wonder what AOC did to earn Yoho's disrespect? TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #114

You wonder what she did to earn his disrespect? melman Jul 2020 #125

I just learned TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #126

That's very nice melman Jul 2020 #127

No. TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #128

Yeah melman Jul 2020 #129

I can't decide on the key word there. la-trucker Jul 2020 #168

I think the key word is "slowly." betsuni Jul 2020 #177

Interesting. George II Jul 2020 #142

Uh...it seems like you're implying that she deserved it? progressoid Jul 2020 #130

Why don't you read post #69 again TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #132

And later you said, "I wonder what AOC did to earn Yoho's disrespect?" progressoid Jul 2020 #135

Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #136

+1 melman Jul 2020 #133

. TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #134

. melman Jul 2020 #137

That was like asking what a rape victim was wearing. Autumn Jul 2020 #140

? George II Jul 2020 #141

You're confused George? When a woman is revealing a man calling her a "fucking bitch" Autumn Jul 2020 #143

Not confused at all, Autumn. George II Jul 2020 #149

Yep. progressoid Jul 2020 #148

AOC has shown what she is made of time after time. Just looking at the people that hate her Autumn Jul 2020 #154

The great thing is AOCs words will follow this little bitch for the rest of his life Danascot Jul 2020 #29

Fuck the Patriarchy's a nice slogan bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #31

Old, racist, white men gobsmacked into silence for one blessed day! PandoraAwakened Jul 2020 #32

We need 100 women like that LittleGirl Jul 2020 #41

K&R! ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #42

Let's hope it inspires others to speak truth to bullshit misogyny and white privilege male dominance Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #43

This. She demonstrated righteous leadership, calling him out. It was a direct challenge to sexism. JudyM Jul 2020 #70

KNR niyad Jul 2020 #56

So many pro-AOC posts lately... manhattan123 Jul 2020 #59

Who are these "haters on this crazy board" you're referring to? ehrnst Jul 2020 #101

Where did I say "haters on this crazy board"? manhattan123 Jul 2020 #163

Sorry - Haters on this Board Crazy... ehrnst Jul 2020 #164

"Haters"? Exactly who are you referring to? That's a pretty rash accusation. George II Jul 2020 #102

+100000000 Celerity Jul 2020 #115

Do you have links to these "haters" you agree are on this board? ehrnst Jul 2020 #165

To paraphrase Pete, I am not a master fisherwoman, but I know Celerity Jul 2020 #166

Huh? Do you think I kept links of various posts I've seen over the months? manhattan123 Jul 2020 #167

Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #170

There is a search feature on DU. ehrnst Jul 2020 #173

+1, that poster said the same things on another thread and R B Garr Jul 2020 #169

The Squad is the future of the Party and of America zentrum Jul 2020 #65

I doubt it. I'm just not seeing it. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #103

Bowman vs. the powerful Engel zentrum Jul 2020 #106

I also heard that about Nader back in 2000. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2020 #107

Not saying it will happen overnight. zentrum Jul 2020 #111

In the upcoming MI and MN primaries, it looks as though half the "squad" may be replaced.... George II Jul 2020 #152

"Another one, Ayanna Pressley, has also distanced herself from that group" melman Jul 2020 #160

Yes, what I said is true. She's a Congresswoman and.... George II Jul 2020 #162

And... greytdemocrat Jul 2020 #67

K&R. JudyM Jul 2020 #71

Hell yeh voteearlyvoteoften Jul 2020 #73

Rude Pundit's righteous rant - this is awesome FakeNoose Jul 2020 #79

She stands on the shoulders of giants ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #86

Fantastic response. I agree with Howard Dean. (eom) Malmsy Jul 2020 #87

Agree...as long as it's clear that Democratic men are "non-patriarchal" and on the good side. gulliver Jul 2020 #91

Many on the far left are very supportive of a white straight patriarchal power structure. ehrnst Jul 2020 #93

Yeah ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #95

her speech was long overdue and music to my ears. Vivienne235729 Jul 2020 #100

I love this. yardwork Jul 2020 #109