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In reply to the discussion: Charles P Pierce: The Authoritarian Operation in Portland Is Only a Dress Rehearsal [View all]CaptainTruth
(7,928 posts)27. The 2A enthusiasts say they need guns to defend against a tyrannical government.
This looks like the exact scenario they've been talking about, so where are they? Why aren't they standing up to defend the Constitutional rights they claim to hold so dear? They're nowhere to be found. I guess it really isn't about Constitutional rights for them, it's just about the guns.
I know one thing, if unknown idiots in camo tried to grab me & put me in a van I would fight for my life with every tool I had at my disposal.
Anyone who has taken self-defense training (specifically kidnapping) or studied the statistics of survival rates of victims who ended the attack at the initial location (where the kidnapping attempt occurred) vs those who were taken to a secondary location knows that if anyone ever tries to kidnap you, you need to do everything you can to end the attempt THEN & THERE. Once the victim is "in the van" & taken to a secondary location survival rates drop dramatically.
If these morons are kidnapping people without identifying themselves & following proper arrest procedures, they are doing so at their own peril.
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Charles P Pierce: The Authoritarian Operation in Portland Is Only a Dress Rehearsal [View all]
Dennis Donovan
Jul 2020
OP
She needs to get the National Guard to keep these Federal Agents ON Federal Property
CanonRay
Jul 2020
#14
Chill. Kate Brown is tough as nails. She'll handle it -- as will Oregonians. tRump and his goons
KPN
Jul 2020
#17
The left and anti-government conservatives should be on the same page on this one
bucolic_frolic
Jul 2020
#5
That's Charles Pierce's reference to Pinochet. Taken on a one-way helicopter trip.
erronis
Jul 2020
#19
The 2A enthusiasts say they need guns to defend against a tyrannical government.
CaptainTruth
Jul 2020
#27
The RWNJ republicans destroyed Wisconsin by making it a "test" state to see what they......
usaf-vet
Jul 2020
#28
My first reaction. Dry run, coming soon to a city near you? Agencies have been co-opted.
Evolve Dammit
Jul 2020
#33
Watch 20 sec vid as *some guys* take a bicyclist down for bicycling w signs. No marks but blue light
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2020
#35
Is the MSM covering this? I haven't seen any mention of it all morning on msnbc or CNN.
onetexan
Jul 2020
#36
Nicolle Wallace covered it tonight when she subbed for Rachel Maddow, scary stuff.
Rhiannon12866
Jul 2020
#44
This was an important story that I didn't completely understand until I watched TRMS tonight.
Rhiannon12866
Jul 2020
#46
And here we are! I think Nicolle Wallace explained it the best, but Chris Hayes and Ali Velshi
Rhiannon12866
Jul 2020
#49