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Celerity

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63. you are vastly overstating Warren's 'Republicaness' and vastly underplaying Caruso-Cabrera's
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jun 2020
Warren was only a registered Republican from 1991 to 1996, the only Republican POTUS she ever voted for was Ford. The last time she was a registered Republican was 24 years ago.

Michelle Caruso Cabrera, on the other hand, was still pushing her RW anti-government, Reagan-loving book she wrote as of October 2018. She also rented from Trump until late 2019 (just months ago), lived in Trump Tower in a flat that was close to and probably well over 200,000 USD rent per year. (It was 180,000 USD a year nine years ago and Manhattan ultra-luxury rents have skyrocketed since then)

I also REALLY have to laugh at this (coming from a multi-millionaire who just moved to Queens a few months ago from a flat whose rent alone is 4 or 5 times the entire income of your average person) and given the fact that AOC has lived in the Bronx since 2011 and overall has lived there 14 years of her 30 on the planet

https://www.businessinsider.com/aocs-democratic-challenger-lived-in-trump-tower-before-moving-queens-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

In a recent interview with Insider, Caruso-Cabrera said the first-term congresswoman was "out of touch" with her district, "doesn't know what it takes to put food on the table and to put a roof over the head of a family," and was masquerading as a Bronx native.


But Caruso-Cabrera, a New Hampshire native who lived in Manhattan for 20 years, told Insider she moved to New York's 14th Congressional District only late last year when she and her husband took up residence in Sunnyside, Queens.





Caruso-Cabrera's own Republican backers describe her as

https://www.ft.com/content/580b5830-7f7e-4092-a6f7-7b451e075e10

Larry Lindsey, a Republican economist who served in the George W Bush administration, said: “Michelle knows more about the world and how things work than probably a solid majority of Congress.” He said he had known the challenger for 15 years and wrote her campaign a cheque as soon as he learnt she was running. “She and I would consider ourselves pragmatic libertarians.”






Warren grew up in an FDR Democratic household.

Her first vote the POTUS was AGAINST Nixon in 1972. She did vote for Ford, but liked Carter. She voted Carter in 1980 and Mondale in 1984. In 1988 she voted for Dukakis, and in 1992, Clinton. Obviously voted for Clinton again in 1996 and every other Democrat since then. She registered as a Republican because she had moved to PA and liked Arlen Specter, who also switched to our Party from Republican.

Her first presidential vote, in 1972, had been cast against a man she said she disliked passionately, Richard Nixon. But reflecting on how little she had paid attention to day-to-day politics at the time, she couldn’t immediately recall who had been running against him. When told it was Democrat George McGovern, she said, Yes, she would have voted for him but didn’t have any specific memory of having done so. (She was living in New Jersey at the time.) Going to the polls, she said, was nothing new for her. Warren’s mother had been a poll worker and brought her young daughter to the polls each Election Day.

Nixon was re-elected that year, of course, but resigned and was replaced by Gerald Ford. Warren said she had voted for him in 1976, believing that “Ford was a decent man.” But she was happy with Jimmy Carter, who beat him. “I thought he [also] was a decent man,” she said, transferring her then-standard for what she wanted in a politician from Ford to Carter. “He was a really good man.”

As the ’80s wore on and her research on bankruptcy progressed, Warren started waking up politically. At the time, though, the two parties had yet to separate entirely along ideological lines, as some deeply conservative and racist Democrats still held office, as did some genuinely liberal Republicans. In 1988, Warren voted for Michael Dukakis but, in 1992, split her ticket, voting for Republican Arlen Specter for Senate and Democrat Bill Clinton for president. Specter is a good example of the one-time flexibility of the party system and the politicians within it: He began and ended his career as a Democrat, but was a Republican for much of the middle of it. By the fall of 1987, she had moved to Pennsylvania and registered there as a Republican. Warren said she couldn’t quite remember why she did it but that she was a fan of Specter. “Again, I thought he was a decent man,” she said. She couldn’t recall whom he ran against. (His Democratic opponent was Lynn Yeakel.) That GOP registration, though, has set off speculation over the years that one of the Senate’s most progressive champions may have at one time been a Ronald Reagan backer.

So we asked her: Is it true? Is it possible the champion of the regulatory cops on Wall Street voted for the man who made deregulation a hallmark of his presidency?

No.

In 1980, she said, she was a registered independent living in Missouri City, Texas, and cast her vote to re-elect Carter.

When Reagan won, she wasn’t happy but not crushed the way she was on election night in 2016. “I was disappointed and didn’t like him, but I wasn’t deeply worried for the country, not anything like when Trump was elected,” she explained. If she could go back in time, she said, she would tell herself “this was a far more pivotal historical moment than you understand.”



https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/12/elizabeth-warren-profile-young-republican-2020-president-226613

Warren has acknowledged her Republican past before, but she does not often discuss it, or else downplays it. In a recent interview over tea at her home in Cambridge, Massachusetts, she said she assumes the first time she registered as a Democrat was 1996, but added, “I’m not even 100 percent sure what I was registered as.” According to Warren, in the six presidential elections she voted in before 1996, she cast her ballot for just one GOP nominee, Gerald Ford in 1976. She does not talk about her Republican past in either of her books or as part of the biography she recounts in her stump speech; the information often comes as a surprise even to Beltway politicos and longtime Warren allies.




Warren also 2nd lowest Trump score in the entire Senate

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/



compare that to the highest Democrats









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Your posts are very informative JonLP24 Jun 2020 #1
yw! Celerity Jun 2020 #83
And yet, we're to believe that there is no coordination between Bettie Jun 2020 #2
Wall Streeters back AOCs opponent WHO IS A REPUBLICAN american_ideals Jun 2020 #3
Money Honey Two RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #72
It is really sad that some people here support this false flag republican Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #4
Be nice to the people on the way up, because you might meet them again on the way down. OnDoutside Jun 2020 #6
I have no problem with primary contests between Democrats. Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #8
Agree. It's become a trend to slap a D behind your name & run on that ticket. Budi Jun 2020 #11
I wonder if you see the difference... PTWB Jun 2020 #17
And many people here have a huge problem with attacks on Democrats who have toiled long and OnDoutside Jun 2020 #12
- so you support a rightwing extremist pretending to be a Democrat? Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #13
Guess we'll find out after tonight how the people in District 14 feel about it. Budi Jun 2020 #24
This is like a flashback to the Bernie Bros here, in Jan & Feb. Anyone who didn't fall at the feet OnDoutside Jun 2020 #27
She has a right to endorse anyone she wants just as anyone else has a right to endorse whoever they JonLP24 Jun 2020 #29
No, you can be a progressive and not be a Bernie Bro. 99% of Democrats, by the very fact of not OnDoutside Jun 2020 #35
As I said, I am fine with Democrats, real Democrats supporting Democratic Party positions, Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #32
I presume you were vocal here against Bernie then ? OnDoutside Jun 2020 #34
Really? PTWB Jun 2020 #10
"DARES to speak truth to power" Lol. That's one way of putting it. Firing balls of shit, at fellow OnDoutside Jun 2020 #18
I want us, as Democrats, to be better. PTWB Jun 2020 #22
Then hope she stops attacking Democrats !!! That's the point. OnDoutside Jun 2020 #30
If you don't know enough about her opponent... PTWB Jun 2020 #36
It's irrelevant. The issue is that the AOC supporters here are pissed at other posters who are not OnDoutside Jun 2020 #42
It has nothing to do with not showing unwavering support. PTWB Jun 2020 #57
I think it's fair to say that many people here would be happier with Badrun Khan rather than OnDoutside Jun 2020 #69
You'd be mistaken. PTWB Jun 2020 #71
No, it isn't simply because they don't like that progressive Democrat. You seem to think that OnDoutside Jun 2020 #73
I prefer she stay the same JonLP24 Jun 2020 #23
She said "Pelosi was targeting "newly elected women of colour"" OnDoutside Jun 2020 #33
the ironic thing is that the real hardcore lefties (the ones who are far to the left of even most Celerity Jun 2020 #37
Interesting that some ignore the fact that both MCC and Badrun Khan are WOC. George II Jun 2020 #74
Indeed. OnDoutside Jun 2020 #75
So some are blaming people who aren't 110% behind her because, in part.... George II Jun 2020 #78
Lol ! OnDoutside Jun 2020 #80
MCC is a woman of color too, as is Badrun Khan. Why hold that up for one and not the other two? George II Jun 2020 #46
I'll answer that (very easy) question if you ever answer mine. PTWB Jun 2020 #53
And you will still be waiting, based on the reasons I've already given you a couple of times. George II Jun 2020 #54
Yes, the reason being you don't want to paint yourself in a corner. PTWB Jun 2020 #55
No, I simply do not answer hypotheticals about something that will never happen. George II Jun 2020 #56
Because you don't want to expose a hypocritical position you've taken. PTWB Jun 2020 #59
Make up your own reasons for why I do or don't do something, that's your prerogative.... George II Jun 2020 #61
I'm just making the best guess I can ... PTWB Jun 2020 #62
I'll tell you what, when donald trump switches parties and becomes a Democrat ask me again. Fair? George II Jun 2020 #65
No, it is (or should be) just as easy for you to answer right now. PTWB Jun 2020 #67
I don't see the point in answering any question you might whimsically come up with.... George II Jun 2020 #68
So you keep saying. PTWB Jun 2020 #70
Since we're talking about stupid hypotheticals... SidDithers Jun 2020 #76
No, I wouldn't. PTWB Jun 2020 #77
The attacking goes both ways JonLP24 Jun 2020 #19
That's about policy, and I agree, that's perfectly fine to criticise. No problem with that. OnDoutside Jun 2020 #28
Jon UBI Makes Sense DanieRains Jun 2020 #82
This clash of big PAC titans is why I support Badrun Khan Budi Jun 2020 #5
Badrun Khan is her name Celerity Jun 2020 #14
Typo..thanks. I could care less that her chances are slim. Budi Jun 2020 #21
AOC has national appeal, look at the chart that shows her average contribution, it is only 10 USD, Celerity Jun 2020 #25
Which is precisely why the argument about MCC's outside money is a moot point Budi Jun 2020 #31
it is not a moot point if you look at the overall agenda behind many of her largest donors & backers Celerity Jun 2020 #38
Why I'm supporting Khan. I'm going for the little gal. Budi Jun 2020 #43
There are many AOC haters right here on DU who are supporting her opponent PTWB Jun 2020 #7
"afraid of AOC, a woman of color in a position of power who DARES to speak truth to power." jcgoldie Jun 2020 #15
Michelle Caruso Cabrera is also a woman of color DenverJared Jun 2020 #48
..who stands for almost everything democrats do not. jcgoldie Jun 2020 #52
She's a radical right wing ultra conservative Republican PTWB Jun 2020 #60
MCC was pushing that book she wrote in 2010 as of 2018. She also rented from Trump until 2019 Autumn Jun 2020 #16
There was a DUer defending that just last night... PTWB Jun 2020 #20
Some have hated AOC since the day she was elected. Autumn Jun 2020 #26
must be hard to harass her when each of her tweets gets a bazillion replies Celerity Jun 2020 #39
I'll correct that. He thinks he harasses her on twitter Autumn Jun 2020 #40
lol Celerity Jun 2020 #41
Wow, I can actually see all the replies! demmiblue Jun 2020 #9
not me ...65 out of 80 questionseverything Jun 2020 #81
Yeah, I spoke too soon. demmiblue Jun 2020 #84
Much ado about nothing DenverJared Jun 2020 #44
Yes Warren was a Republican Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #45
It took 14 years for Sen Warren DenverJared Jun 2020 #47
Then we should wait to see that evolution before voting for a prediction based on nothing. CountMyVote4Reality Jun 2020 #49
No need to wait DenverJared Jun 2020 #50
No she needs to prove herself first. Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #79
Yes it did Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #51
If you think Liz Warren is the darling of progressives you don't know many progressives. aidbo Jun 2020 #58
you are vastly overstating Warren's 'Republicaness' and vastly underplaying Caruso-Cabrera's Celerity Jun 2020 #63
Some here are thrilled to support that DINO Marrah_Goodman Jun 2020 #64
What's fair is fair... if AOC and crew can go after Engel, this isn't any different. Blasphemer Jun 2020 #66
and they did! RandiFan1290 Jun 2020 #85
They did and it was different. Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #86
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