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Hortensis

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45. Too complacent. We apparently have the agreement Putin
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 06:33 AM
Jul 2018

referenced. An expert discussing this used the word extradition; perhaps another would be more correct if not any more legal. Putin has a huge grudge against Browder for encouraging passage of the Magnitsky Act in our country and other actions in other nations. He's now claiming Browder, Ambassador McFaul and the others were involved in criminal conspiracy. Putin doesn't want to question, but to imprison and to cause great uproar here.

Trump is already far, far over the line toward committing this atrocity even by saying he's considering it. If Trump ordered arrests and and we learned these people had been flown to Russia, whereabouts unknown, what would we do?

Remember, Trump very publicly broke what have to be a bunch of laws thousands of times in arresting people claiming refugee status and kidnapping their children, putting them in detention facilities, immediately trafficking some of them into a foster-care-to-adoption pipeline. He believed the right would continue to support him, and he was very right.

He plans to double down on atrocities against immigrants using other excuses. Detention camps for over 100,000 are in the works.

I now believe the only personal limits to what this wannabe dictator would do are those actions he fears could come back and hurt him and crimes so big that he's lacked the guts to proceed, such as using our nukes or bizarrely invading Venezuela. So far.

He's given us strong reason to believe that only considerations of political fallout to him would keep him from obligingly arresting former government officials and turning them over to Putin. And the right might be initially a little shaken but would form back up and support it. Putin even helped this along by personally claiming Browder donated $400 million (!) to Hillary's campaign.

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A MUST READ hlthe2b Jul 2018 #1
Off to the Greatest page Hekate Jul 2018 #2
The moron would be responsible for his death if BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #3
Browder is not a US citizen VMA131Marine Jul 2018 #8
That is good news...I guess. BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #12
It is not our government any more. pangaia Jul 2018 #29
Trump cannot *legally* give Putin access ... DBoon Jul 2018 #15
Was just looking for that.. thx for answering my question ... was pretty sure he's UK citizen Thekaspervote Jul 2018 #16
Fascinating article! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2018 #4
K & R. n/t FSogol Jul 2018 #5
Kick. nt Laffy Kat Jul 2018 #6
KICK Leghorn21 Jul 2018 #7
Putin hates and fears Browder and the international Hortensis Jul 2018 #9
The US has no extradition treaty with Russia. whathehell Jul 2018 #44
Too complacent. We apparently have the agreement Putin Hortensis Jul 2018 #45
I am hardly "too complacent" whathehell Jul 2018 #46
Hope you're right, but I"m not paranoid either Hortensis Jul 2018 #48
It's best we don't know where he is lapislzi Jul 2018 #50
Yes. Browder's an extremely brave, determined man Hortensis Jul 2018 #52
Putin also wants to get hold of a U.S. congressional staffer Hortensis Jul 2018 #10
k&R... spanone Jul 2018 #11
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #13
Horrifying that drumph did not reject this ploy by putin. BSdetect Jul 2018 #14
Just another result of meeting with a dictator without advisors or experts and then agreeing to Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #22
(you meant to say "wouldn't" at the end, didn't you?...) lastlib Jul 2018 #42
Thank You, emulatorloo! Cha Jul 2018 #17
K&R 2naSalit Jul 2018 #18
Wonder what's taking other countries so long to pass their Magnitsky Acts. OliverQ Jul 2018 #19
Russians don't interrogate. They assassinate. kstewart33 Jul 2018 #20
and poison people bdamomma Jul 2018 #39
K & R... N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2018 #21
It's good to know he's a British citizen, but he still has to watch his back. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #23
Is this Bill Browder the billionaire serial killer CIA/M16 agent? Native Jul 2018 #24
This has got to finally shatter Trump's GOP Hostage Congress. stuffmatters Jul 2018 #25
LOL. There is no "Hostage Congress". This is now mainstream Republican politics. Midnight Writer Jul 2018 #30
1000%.Used the word "hostage" because Putin hold proof of long time GOP's war on our democracy stuffmatters Jul 2018 #34
That sounds all too plausible. What a Le Carre novel we're living through... DemocracyMouse Jul 2018 #41
Only one thing the Hostage GOP Congress cares about: propagandized base sharedvalues Jul 2018 #38
& take all marching orders from Koch Bros & Global Petrofascist Cabal where Putin is front & center stuffmatters Jul 2018 #59
k and r Achilleaze Jul 2018 #26
K&R. I hope ever DU'er reads this. (N/T) Old Crow Jul 2018 #27
K&effinR yonder Jul 2018 #28
Maybe this is what Putin wants from Trump. It sounds big enuf, important enuf. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #31
So, Why Did Bernie Sanders Vote Against Magnitsky Act? TomCADem Jul 2018 #32
Hillary Clinton was also opposed to it oberliner Jul 2018 #49
False. Chuck Schumer and Gillibrand Were NY's Senators at the Time TomCADem Jul 2018 #55
No, it's true oberliner Jul 2018 #57
Bernie Sanders Voted No on Russian Sanctions AND the Magnitsky Act TomCADem Jul 2018 #58
K&R! gademocrat7 Jul 2018 #33
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #35
K & R MUST READ !! nt Pluvious Jul 2018 #36
Love the article and Browder. But remember - Koches own Time sharedvalues Jul 2018 #37
K&R bdamomma Jul 2018 #40
K & R SunSeeker Jul 2018 #43
K&R blue-wave Jul 2018 #47
BOOM! K & R FakeNoose Jul 2018 #51
K&R Gothmog Jul 2018 #53
Wow!! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2018 #54
Boink. Scurrilous Jul 2018 #56
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