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94Mountaineer

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59. Agree

Mon Apr 30, 2018, 10:34 AM

Apr 2018

Take responsibility for it. Her past is her past. Own it.
She's obviously grown, as a person, and doesn't hold the views of her past. Her actions are what matters.

This is neither ownership of her past nor an apology.

“Here’s what I know, I genuinely do not believe I wrote those hateful things because they are completely alien to me, but I can definitely understand based on things I have tweeted and I have written in the past why some people don’t believe me,"

it's very similar to the old "if I offended you, I'm sorry"...like if you weren't offended the person isn't sorry for what they did/said?

Own it. Apologize and move on.

She's not going to lose her job, nor should she. But don't sit there an lie about being hacked and put the blame on the people who don't believe her lie.

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Joy Reid's Defenders Praise Her Apology -- But Ignore Her Apparent Cover-Up (Huffington Post) [View all] oberliner Apr 2018 OP

Still salty, huh? nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #1

Looks like it... HipChick Apr 2018 #2

+1000 stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #6

Gratified by those who appreciate the truth oberliner Apr 2018 #119

No kidding huh... Agschmid Apr 2018 #169

To some there will never be enough ...... Fullduplexxx Apr 2018 #3

All would be forgiven if Joy just bent the knee to comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #61

Yeah we all know who workinclasszero Apr 2018 #127

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #130

Someone better throw their rock like Aunt Lydia wants. forgotmylogin Apr 2018 #83

Stop doing the right's work for them. Adrahil Apr 2018 #4

Very odd...especially when you go look at the multiple posts on the very same subject HipChick Apr 2018 #11

It's another brazen attack on a Democrat. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #15

Over and over workinclasszero Apr 2018 #129

I know, right? Cary Apr 2018 #28

It doesn't make me wonder. I understand it completely. MineralMan Apr 2018 #72

Really? Cary Apr 2018 #74

I know. I'm on your side. MineralMan Apr 2018 #75

We are on the same side Cary Apr 2018 #81

I didn't wonder, knew who wrote it even before I opened it grantcart Apr 2018 #166

You and I go back to the BOG days when smearing President Obama Cary Apr 2018 #168

Yet this is done here day after day and nothing is done. I dont know how much more I can take. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #104

This is not "the right's work" oberliner Apr 2018 #120

Yes it is. Adrahil Apr 2018 #131

She made a mistake falling back on the "I was hacked" excuse. I hope she learned from this. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #5

That's a polite way of excusing her lying. zaj Apr 2018 #32

So whatcha thinking? Adrahil Apr 2018 #33

Let's start with accepting reality instead of burying it zaj Apr 2018 #141

I watched her statement. I thought it was sufficient. Adrahil Apr 2018 #143

We don't need to pile on, but we should have meaningful standards p zaj Apr 2018 #147

Her joke was NOT about her appearance- why is okay to bolster that lie and not accept bettyellen Apr 2018 #150

I'm not bolstering that lie zaj Apr 2018 #151

We should.... zaj Apr 2018 #152

Haberman is doubling down and saying the softball coach joke was also bettyellen Apr 2018 #155

I missed that until this post zaj Apr 2018 #158

Agree 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #59

In the WaPo forgotmylogin Apr 2018 #76

It's the part where she references "some people might not believe me" 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #82

Okay, throw your rock then, or move on. forgotmylogin Apr 2018 #84

Opinions vary 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #87

Cool Story, Bro ! stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #7

For fuck's sake . . . I thought trashing Joy week was over. Vinca Apr 2018 #8

Trashing anti Rump people will never be over here. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #106

Joy Reid is amazing - I love her show and think she is a great voice for progressives oberliner Apr 2018 #117

I don't believe you. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #153

I've noted many of your concerns. kwassa Apr 2018 #156

I believe you. nt Piasladic Apr 2018 #161

...sigh... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #9

Did I miss your "oops... I guess she WAS lying" post? FBaggins Apr 2018 #14

... hlthe2b Apr 2018 #19

You have GOT to be kidding... right? FBaggins Apr 2018 #20

... progressoid Apr 2018 #56

No, they have not been made. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #63

You seem inconsoleable. That makes me sad, but I see nothing more than DUers can do than they have hlthe2b Apr 2018 #66

Don't worry; I'm not. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #71

.... LexVegas Apr 2018 #78

I assume the anti Reid people can show us a lifetime of going out of their way Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #108

Yes! They absolutely can! FBaggins Apr 2018 #148

First of all, most are not "anti Reid" people. mountain grammy May 2018 #177

The point is of course many of the loudest ANTI Joy voices Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #180

On that point I completely agree. mountain grammy May 2018 #182

Can we take Joy Reid down off the cross already? HipChick Apr 2018 #10

Maybe someone can... tonedevil Apr 2018 #90

Someone alerted on this, BTW. Trying to call HuffPo a RW source. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #12

Be aware posting exactly what you just did got me my first hide. moriah Apr 2018 #18

I hope people see how problematic that is oberliner Apr 2018 #121

Agreed. nt Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #157

Her words were rediculous and she has evolved. She apologized and by and large Afromania Apr 2018 #13

I think you missed a step there FBaggins Apr 2018 #16

How bad is the entire collection of Republicans for defending trump and all that's going on Afromania Apr 2018 #29

I'm not sure what your point is FBaggins Apr 2018 #31

Sure as shit isn't the purist crap so called Dems spout around election time BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #64

No, it isn't purist crap. Thanks for getting the point even that some folks want to imagine Afromania Apr 2018 #134

What I'm saying, and this is the last reply I'm making, is we can't sit here waiting for saints Afromania Apr 2018 #132

She lied, that's the problem. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #17

What exactly did she say that was a lie? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #25

This dsc Apr 2018 #30

Got it. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #45

Is that all you have to say? dsc Apr 2018 #49

Yes, that's all I have to say. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #51

I wonder if the anti Reid people can show how they have spent their lives Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #111

I am ptentialy putting my job on the line to bring my school a GSA dsc Apr 2018 #118

She stated she didn't write it and she was hacked. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #41

Gotcha EffieBlack Apr 2018 #43

Oh it has everything to do with the GOP. Democratic voices don't get the same sidestepping jump Afromania Apr 2018 #26

If a reporter lies, they have broken trust. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #46

It has everything to do with them, and she's not a reporter she's a talking head that provides Afromania Apr 2018 #52

What if I told you one could both be mad at Reid for lying Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #53

Or didn't remember...but it is over and she is a good person for our side ...or maybe she was Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #92

If she hadn't included the hacking bit it wouldn't have gotten as much attention Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #21

Thank you! Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #22

Well said oberliner Apr 2018 #37

please Botany Apr 2018 #23

That is an awesome video oberliner Apr 2018 #36

Could you combine all your OPs on Joy into one? Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #24

Good suggestion oberliner Apr 2018 #34

Thanks for making it abundantly clear. Time to block. writes3000 Apr 2018 #39

"Time to block" oberliner Apr 2018 #123

Aren't you sick and tired of.excoriating liberals? Cary Apr 2018 #27

She is great oberliner Apr 2018 #35

We shouldn't be excoriating liberals. Cary Apr 2018 #40

Judging from the posts I have seen, the answer is no. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #93

I find it odd that they think they have every right to excoriate liberals Cary Apr 2018 #167

It really is...sometimes I wonder if they understand we need to fight Republicans Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #172

"dubious claim"? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #65

Give up. That's exactly what Repubkicans want. Cary Apr 2018 #69

So when Dems told me I was dividing the party when I said I didn't believe Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #73

The argument that you do more harm than good when you attack Democrats is objectively reasonable Cary Apr 2018 #79

It seems weird to many of us why a person would go after a progressive ally like Joy... Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #94

Because she lied. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #98

Pattern and practice EffieBlack Apr 2018 #48

and the people defending her repeatedly say the clearly anti gay comments dsc Apr 2018 #50

Let perfection be the enemy of.the good? Cary Apr 2018 #67

Not knowing much about computers and hacking thucythucy Apr 2018 #38

I'm with you 100% EffieBlack Apr 2018 #42

They aren't sure, but will take any opening they can get. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #47

I am also with you 100% CatMor Apr 2018 #55

Because people who track that down for a living have found no evidence? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #68

Sorry, but I still don't buy it. thucythucy Apr 2018 #91

Seriously? SHE knows it's a lie. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #97

It makes sense to me. peabody Apr 2018 #99

So the next time a Republican uses that excuse, Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2018 #137

It's entirely possible peabody Apr 2018 #139

+1 spooky3 Apr 2018 #136

You have a point. Just because someone doesn't have any evidence that they were hacked doesn't mean hughee99 Apr 2018 #145

Way to read the room dude. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #44

Did anyone have a doubt as to who posted this? RhodeIslandOne Apr 2018 #54

Nope... SidDithers Apr 2018 #57

Exactly. And we KNOW the R B Garr Apr 2018 #58

Welcome to DU oberliner Apr 2018 #115

Great place for Democrats. R B Garr Apr 2018 #144

It takes courage to stand up for the truth oberliner Apr 2018 #113

Keep giving yourself those self-congratulations. peabody Apr 2018 #142

I was thanking someone else for the compliment oberliner May 2018 #175

Did you watch her show where this was all taken care of blue cat May 2018 #174

Yes, I watched that show oberliner May 2018 #176

and just how did Hayley Miller come to that conclusion that Ms. Reid's defenders ignored her still_one Apr 2018 #60

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #62

This is one of the weirdest posts I have ever seen oberliner Apr 2018 #110

yup....it's obvious BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #112

Old news. That was this weekend's disruptive story. MineralMan Apr 2018 #70

Glenn Greenwald is a vile human being oberliner Apr 2018 #109

Uh-huh. OK. MineralMan Apr 2018 #125

K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2018 #77

This is so sad padah513 Apr 2018 #80

Agreed oberliner Apr 2018 #105

If it will help you to move on my friend padah513 Apr 2018 #154

I'm sorry Olafjoy Apr 2018 #85

Welcome to DU oberliner Apr 2018 #107

When?! When is it ever enough?! democratisphere Apr 2018 #86

Another post I made today was about a suicide bombing that killed almost 30 people oberliner Apr 2018 #103

Try a drumpf deserving the Nobel Peace Prize OP. democratisphere Apr 2018 #146

Back at it again I see...give it up Joy is not going anywhere. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #88

This OP is a good one oberliner Apr 2018 #102

Too many OP's...and I feel end up hurting Democrats. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #135

Most have moved on. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #89

Her statement on her show was literally two days ago oberliner Apr 2018 #101

Just like Franken's defenders refuse to admit he mistreated women mythology Apr 2018 #95

How to Learn to Let Go of Things . stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #96

How to Participate in a Discussion Forum oberliner Apr 2018 #100

You seem really interested in throwing Dems under the bus John Fante Apr 2018 #159

The VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAST majority of the anti Reid people dont give a shit Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #116

I think it's time to put this OP/poster on my Ignore List . stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #124

That sounds like a really good idea oberliner Apr 2018 #126

I only do this here at DU because I assume we have a big enough audience that Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #128

I only have two posters on my Ignore List . I think it's time to start using it more often . stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #133

Many of the "anti-Reid" people ARE the LGBT community wonkwest Apr 2018 #160

Again I am potentially putting my job on the line to help a student get a GSA dsc Apr 2018 #163

No idea what a GSA is or what you are talking about Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #164

wow and you have the ever loving nerve to lecture the rest of us about gay rights dsc Apr 2018 #165

Not a big deal treestar Apr 2018 #114

she posted some olld homophobic stuff and was embarrassed Bonx Apr 2018 #122

Apparently she got the FBI involved. I hope she didn't lie to THEM. n/t yodermon Apr 2018 #138

Sounds like certain Bernie supporters are still bent helmedon1974 Apr 2018 #140

... Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #149

I consider the matter with Joy closed. However, many of her defenders are doubling down on ugly wonkwest Apr 2018 #162

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #170

Keep stewing in your resentment! peabody Apr 2018 #171

... LexVegas May 2018 #178

"I was Hacked" may be the new go-to when a public figure gets in trouble. jalan48 Apr 2018 #173

Why, though? Dr. Strange May 2018 #179

It's a dodge and at least worth a try. There are zero repercussions from saying it. jalan48 May 2018 #181