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80. TBH, as a person of colour and a lesbian, I well and truly am so used to casual (or not so casual)

Sat Apr 28, 2018, 10:55 PM

Apr 2018

homophobia coming from my community. I grew up in London, am half West Indian, and unfortunately West Indians are oft-times amongst the most virulent homophobes. Sodomy is still against the law on some islands (or was up until very recently), and in Jamaica being a gay man is super shite still.

It is getting better, and I have personally talked many fellow Westies and also Africans (another group who can be viscous in anti-LGBTQ hatred) into looking again at their prejudice.

When the story about Reid first came out in December, I really didn't give a toss. If she had just done the same this time, I would have TOTALLY said, all good.

But much like many others, it is not the "crime" that get's you laid low, it is a shoddy attempt to cover up. Again, it is a damn shame, and hopefully she survives this.

The RW scum will POUND now, and probably all Joy's enemies on the regressive left too. Fuck 'em all.

Fingers crossed for a good outcome.

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Joy Reid apologizes and says experts haven't proven she was hacked [View all] oberliner Apr 2018 OP

So here we go again eh? Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #1

Being obsessed with the truth is a good thing oberliner Apr 2018 #6

No, I don't think those claims should be ignored. janterry Apr 2018 #29

Will no one think of all the scavenger species? hlthe2b Apr 2018 #26

At least 50-75 posts on this one subject in the last few days. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #28

What a way to obliterate her heartfelt apology. Quite an agenda there. bettyellen Apr 2018 #2

This a pretty good distillation of why this Joy Reid stuff really matters oberliner Apr 2018 #5

Louis Peitzman: George II Apr 2018 #37

Where do you see that on his twitter profile? oberliner Apr 2018 #46

Some folks seem to love the tearing down of liberals like Reid and Franken Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #12

Reid said her blog was hacked - and is still saying she does not believe she wrote those posts oberliner Apr 2018 #18

Why not allow the truth to play out before throwing her under the bus? Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #23

I don't believe she should be thrown under a bus - I like her show and hope she stays on oberliner Apr 2018 #24

Really? You think post like this will help her 'stay on'? Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #90

I don't think this post will impact her staying on the air one way or another oberliner Apr 2018 #97

Occasionally? Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #106

Yes, Joy's claims that she was hacked have not been disproved or proved. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #31

Then why apologize? 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #36

Because.. she had other posts that she apologized for.. Cha Apr 2018 #47

The ones she admitted making, previously ? 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #53

There would be nothing to apologize for... I think Joy was apologizing just in case InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #104

I'm sorry for the words I deny writing 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #108

She said that cybersecurity experts have been examining the claim since December oberliner Apr 2018 #48

But she says she doesn't believe the words are her own? 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #57

Apologizing makes her seem guilty? Not to me. I think she's trying to make it clear..... marble falls Apr 2018 #95

Guilty? No. I just don't see the point in her apologizing for something 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #101

She's putting oil on the water. She's not striking back, she's not putting gas on the fire.... marble falls Apr 2018 #103

I think it's a good move on Joy's part to apologize anyway, even without necessarily InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #105

Her actions are what matters but 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #107

TBH, I'm a little disappointed too, the same way I was with Al Franken's misconduct... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #109

I'm not disappointed for what someone said 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #110

Agreed... Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #87

What the post does most effectively is not to evicerate Joy, who I think gave a fair explaination JCanete Apr 2018 #22

As opposed to the "bandwagon of DU posting here that automatically" condemn her before... George II Apr 2018 #38

At what point will the full truth be determined? oberliner Apr 2018 #49

When it is determined. No sooner, no later. George II Apr 2018 #50

"I hired cybersecurity experts to see if somebody had manipulated my words or my former blog... oberliner Apr 2018 #52

Did she say they were finished? What's your beef with Joy Anne Reid? George II Apr 2018 #56

I have no beef with her - but consider what would Joy Reid say oberliner Apr 2018 #59

Why don't you ask her instead of speculating? George II Apr 2018 #63

no, but there is a huge difference between adopting an outlandish(though possible) JCanete Apr 2018 #86

That's a great perspective and commentary on this subject, thanks. George II Apr 2018 #100

ya know, as a gay man myself I might have issues with what went down. m-lekktor Apr 2018 #30

Thanks for your deeply honest post... I would have felt better if Joy had InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #34

Once this DU post came to light, it was pretty obvious that there was no hack Exotica Apr 2018 #71

Thanks for sharing that oberliner Apr 2018 #73

I finally made my mind up tonight when she said she couldn't find any evidence of hacks Exotica Apr 2018 #75

Me too... just wish Joy had lumped the later-discovered blog comments with the earlier ones and InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #78

TBH, as a person of colour and a lesbian, I well and truly am so used to casual (or not so casual) Exotica Apr 2018 #80

I think you pretty much summed up my feelings on this topic as well. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #82

Great summary, Exotica TheDormouse Apr 2018 #111

Sorry but the OP is heavily edited to omit anything positive about Joy - so I feel it's a hit job in bettyellen Apr 2018 #60

The OP is the first four paragraphs of a CNN story oberliner Apr 2018 #74

Bless your heart OldHippieChick Apr 2018 #3

Salty, huh? nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #4

Many of us are still clinging to the belief that facts matter. oberliner Apr 2018 #7

Good grief. peabody Apr 2018 #10

I was quoting the tweet I posted above from Louis Peitzman oberliner Apr 2018 #14

Then why not wait until ALL facts that matter are determined? You've come to the conclusion.... George II Apr 2018 #39

yeah, facts matter.. but metaphorically Cha Apr 2018 #51

I agree that her apology for her past statements was heartfelt oberliner Apr 2018 #54

Sometimes people forget. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #64

That would have been a reasonable statement oberliner Apr 2018 #68

I don't disagree. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #85

Agreed. That was a non-apology apology. TheDormouse Apr 2018 #112

That's a fair way to look at it... doesn't make you a bad person. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #83

You sound angry. herding cats Apr 2018 #65

Not angry at all - just surprised and frustrated with some of the responses oberliner Apr 2018 #72

I've not a clue which posts of yours you think generates attention. herding cats Apr 2018 #77

My theory is that the negative/controversial posts are the more prominent ones oberliner Apr 2018 #88

Especially facts that hurt our side and cause division. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #91

I would say even facts that might hurt our side (rather than especially) oberliner Apr 2018 #96

Again with this? mcar Apr 2018 #8

CNN published this article a few hours ago oberliner Apr 2018 #17

It a fair issue as Joy made it one... it's just that there's no proof that what she said was a lie. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #32

But she has said that there is no evidence to support her claim oberliner Apr 2018 #45

Had Joy done that from the beginning, no doubt this whole thing would've blown over in 1 or 2 days. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #84

Franken 2020 ! stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #9

+1 XRubicon Apr 2018 #11

He'd get my support oberliner Apr 2018 #15

Count me IN!!!!! Exotica Apr 2018 #81

I would expect that a humble sojourner for truth TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #13

She is still saying she doesn't believe she wrote those blog posts oberliner Apr 2018 #16

So, truth isn't you objective. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #19

Truth is my only objective oberliner Apr 2018 #20

That's not been made clear... but, given that Joy does not remember InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #35

So the truth of whether or not her blog was hacked is irrelevant? oberliner Apr 2018 #44

It is yet to be determined if it was hacked or not...thus your post assumes guilt. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #92

Joy Reid said that she hired cybersecurity experts in Dec. to see if someone hacked her blog oberliner Apr 2018 #94

I did read it and heard it on TV...and there are reports she was hacked...and it is not complete yet Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #113

Speaking of posting things and then deleting........ Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #21

I self-deleted numerous posts (there was no hacking) oberliner Apr 2018 #25

LOL SunSeeker Apr 2018 #27

bwahahahahaha!!!! George II Apr 2018 #40

Thats completety out of line. KTM Apr 2018 #42

Right.. Good to hear that.. don't win agruments by censoring news on Cha Apr 2018 #55

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #114

Thanks for that oberliner Apr 2018 #62

+1 leftstreet Apr 2018 #66

I add them to my Jury Blacklist so they can not decide my fate on posts. There's only a few doing it TheBlackAdder Apr 2018 #76

You seem to see "stalkers" everywhere. ehrnst Apr 2018 #115

I trashed your anti Franken screeds, and I'm now trashing Pathwalker Apr 2018 #33

Thank you. George II Apr 2018 #41

Joy Reid is amazing - I love her show and think she is a great voice for progressives oberliner Apr 2018 #43

this is the last straw for me. You're trolling us. bigtree Apr 2018 #58

This is an article at CNN oberliner Apr 2018 #61

You seem to be. peabody Apr 2018 #67

Well said, peabody. Cha Apr 2018 #69

The CNN article is reasonable and makes good points oberliner Apr 2018 #70

more division always... Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #93

Jesus ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #79

This again? I don't believe I have ever seen you post anything that can be considered to help our Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #89

With all due respect, that is a ridiculous assertion oberliner Apr 2018 #98

I believe Joy has evolved. I have no problem with accepting that. What I dont Nanjeanne Apr 2018 #99

Obsession by Oberliner PubliusEnigma Apr 2018 #102