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Rhiannon12866

(239,218 posts)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 11:21 PM Jul 6

What specific policies will Musk's America Party advocate? - DW News



Elon Musk, the world's richest tech billionaire, has announced his intention to establish a new political party in his adopted homeland of the United States. This announcement comes just days after Musk broke with Donald Trump over his substantial spending bill, which Musk claims will bankrupt America.

Musk was a fervent supporter of Trump during his presidential campaign, serving as an advisor tasked with cutting government waste. However, he now says he wants to challenge the entire U.S. political system. - Aired on 07/06/2025.


Chapters:
0:00 Elon Musk announces new US political party
3:04 Brandon Bohrn, Political analyst from the Bertelsmann Foundation
6:53 Thomas Gift, Director of the Centre on US Politics at University College London

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jmbar2

(7,076 posts)
1. Their "policies" are intended to sound reasonable, but won't happen
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:03 AM
Jul 7

Just another round of "Waste, fraud and corruption", while destroying everything for greed.

Rhiannon12866

(239,218 posts)
3. Others have said that this is a ruse, possibly involving Putin.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:13 AM
Jul 7

I can't say that I'd be in the least surprised. We know how TFG and his MAGA followers like to call issues the exact opposite of that they are - like the "big beautiful bill" which screws over the American people.

jmbar2

(7,076 posts)
4. Very consistent with Russian "Reflexive Control"
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:48 AM
Jul 7
Western literature defines reflexive control as “a means of conveying to a partner or an opponent specially prepared information to incline him to voluntarily make the predetermined decision desired by the initiator of the action.”1


https://press.armywarcollege.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3262&context=parameters




Rhiannon12866

(239,218 posts)
5. Thanks for sharing that. And that's what Putin does, the people have no choice.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 12:56 AM
Jul 7

I visited the USSR in the late '80s with my grandmother had joined a peace group which had a "sister town" there - and the people were very friendly towards Americans. However, they did not like then-President Reagan one little bit because he gave then-Soviet President Gorbachev such a tough time. Gorbachev had instituted more progressive polices which the Russian hard liners forced him to roll back thanks to Reagan.

jmbar2

(7,076 posts)
6. What an interesting time to visit.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 01:07 AM
Jul 7

I was living in Japan at the time and met some young Russian entrepreneurs who would come to Japan, buy used cars, and then drive them back to Moscow to sell. It was a pretty good deal since used Japanese cars at the time tended to be Toyotas with low mileage. I met them at the home of a Japanese man who had studied Russian and had known them for some time.

What I remember most is how carefully the Japanese man prepared a basket of fresh fruit and placed it in a semi private spot in the room. They ate the fruit with such reverence. It was clear that it was a very special treat for them.

Rhiannon12866

(239,218 posts)
7. I remember that Russians had a tough time owning cars, not too many were available
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 01:20 AM
Jul 7

And where would they get them serviced/fixed? At least in the cities, public transportation was readily available.

But what I find most depressing now (other than Americans are certainly not welcome) is that at the time the Russians were so dedicated to peace. Since they had suffered so terribly during WWII, fought on their own land, there were statues and plaques everywhere, remembering those who were lost and dedicated to peace. They even had museums in the schools to teach the children about the war so they would never forget. We met with several peace groups while we were there and one older woman who had served as a nurse during the war sticks in my mind. She said, "when you go back, please tell your president that we want peace." *sigh*

no_hypocrisy

(52,359 posts)
8. It could be a money-making scheme.
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 06:13 AM
Jul 7

It could be a vanity thing.

It could be a message to TSF that he isn't getting any more Musk Money.

It would be a hapless venture to garner non-MAGA Republicans and Independents.

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