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Uncle Joe

(59,835 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:43 AM 18 hrs ago

Uncommitted Co-Founder Abbas Alawieh on U.S. Election & Family in Lebanon Fleeing Israeli Bombs



Less than three weeks from the election, Kamala Harris is campaigning in Michigan. Will she lose votes over the Biden administration's support for Israel's war on Gaza and expanding war on Lebanon? Meanwhile, Republican candidate Donald Trump has opened a new campaign office in the swing state. "It feels like Vice President Harris is not doing what it takes to be both humane and compassionate and sensitive to the political realities in Michigan that are necessary to engage with in order to beat Donald Trump," says Abbas Alawieh, co-founder of the "uncommitted" movement to change U.S. policy toward Israel and Gaza. "What are we even talking about as Democrats if we speak so much to the value of human life, of the dignity of workers, when our party's official policy is to send more and more weapons to a fascist government that is on a killing spree?"

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Uncommitted Co-Founder Abbas Alawieh on U.S. Election & Family in Lebanon Fleeing Israeli Bombs (Original Post) Uncle Joe 18 hrs ago OP
F**K Democracy Now. Maybe they will have another Jill Stein interview to push people NOT to vote for Harris/Walz like JohnSJ 18 hrs ago #1
You obviously didn't view the video. n/t Uncle Joe 18 hrs ago #2
No I won't. I won't watch their propaganda. Last month they gave a forum to Jill Stein pushing her bullshit. There is JohnSJ 17 hrs ago #3
I agree, there is no mystery, and Democracy Now's agenda is democracy and journalism, Uncle Joe 17 hrs ago #4
No it isn't. It is a one-sided distortion of a political agenda. I don't see those uncommitted voters condemning what JohnSJ 17 hrs ago #5
It's journalism and just because you don't like the message doesn't change that fact. Uncle Joe 17 hrs ago #6
No it isn't journalism. They don't present both sides. Their single focus one-sided condemnation of Israel, and very JohnSJ 17 hrs ago #7
I challenge you to find any Democracy Now video wherein they state that Uncle Joe 17 hrs ago #10
Excuse me. I never said anything about Al Gore inventing the internet or Democracy Now pushing that. What I said is JohnSJ 17 hrs ago #11
Democracy Now isn't owned by oligarchs, major corporate conglomerates and they don't sell commercial space, Uncle Joe 16 hrs ago #12
No it doesn't. They are not objective anymore than Fox is. JohnSJ 16 hrs ago #13
FOX is owned by an oligarch and they make money by selling commercials, that's why we have the advanced world's Uncle Joe 16 hrs ago #14
Won't read it? Magoo48 17 hrs ago #8
After their distorted coverage of Hillary in 2016, they are trash to me. No better than fox. But by all means enjoy. JohnSJ 17 hrs ago #9
Here you go. It's not Democracy Now so I'm confident you'll watch it. Gaugamela 15 hrs ago #15

JohnSJ

(95,424 posts)
1. F**K Democracy Now. Maybe they will have another Jill Stein interview to push people NOT to vote for Harris/Walz like
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:14 PM
18 hrs ago

they did in 2016.

The Green Party and Democracy Now has been going out of their way to elect republicans since 2000.

Go ahead, Democracy Now and those uncommitted voters, threaten the Democratic Party that they will lose votes, just like you did in 2000, 2016.

Perhaps Democracy Now will have another bullshit piece questioning the rapes, torture, and killing that occurred on on October 7, or conveniently leaving out the hundreds of rockets sent by Hezbollah to Israel on October 8, and continuing.

This is the same "both sides are the same bullshit that both the Green Party and Democracy Now pushes.

You don't vote for Harris/Walz you are supporting trump, it is that simple, and if we lose Michigan because of this "uncommitted" vote, enjoy trump.

Democracy Now is an anti-Democratic party rag.







JohnSJ

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3. No I won't. I won't watch their propaganda. Last month they gave a forum to Jill Stein pushing her bullshit. There is
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:20 PM
17 hrs ago

Uncle Joe

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4. I agree, there is no mystery, and Democracy Now's agenda is democracy and journalism,
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:25 PM
17 hrs ago

that's why we have the 1st Amendment.

The 1st Amendment is the bulwark of democracy and the only person to mention Stein's name on this thread is you, twice now.

JohnSJ

(95,424 posts)
5. No it isn't. It is a one-sided distortion of a political agenda. I don't see those uncommitted voters condemning what
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:28 PM
17 hrs ago

happened on October 7, calling for release of all hostages, and not just calling for a ceasefire to disarm, but disavowing hostilities against Israel and Jews, and agreeing to a two-state solution.

Uncle Joe

(59,835 posts)
6. It's journalism and just because you don't like the message doesn't change that fact.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:36 PM
17 hrs ago

If you want to see one-sided distortions, the corporate media has plenty of that in between commercials trying to sell you shit.

Oligarch Rupert Murdoch started his fascist promoting network about 8 months after Democracy Now came into existence, because he was afraid of democracy and the 1st Amendment empowering Internet.

That why the corporate media trashed Al Gore, stating pretty much in unison that "he claimed to have invented the Internet" undermining his credibility.

P.S. If you don't see something, perhaps it's because you didn't look, I've posted plenty of videos from Democracy Now here with Palestinian Americans lamenting both October 7th and everything that's happened before and since.

JohnSJ

(95,424 posts)
7. No it isn't journalism. They don't present both sides. Their single focus one-sided condemnation of Israel, and very
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:43 PM
17 hrs ago

little condemnation of Hamas or Hezbollah speaks volumes.

There one-sided message is very clear. It was in 2000 and 2016.

I engage with Democracy Now or Murdoch. As far as I am concerned they both have a political agenda to promote.


Uncle Joe

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10. I challenge you to find any Democracy Now video wherein they state that
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:54 PM
17 hrs ago

"Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet," because that was the saturation message by the corporate media and not just Murdoch's network.

Even Jimmy Carter recognized how poorly the Palestinians were being treated by Israel, I've posted those videos here as well, and things didn't improve since those interviews by Democracy Now in 2007.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/11635858

https://www.democraticunderground.com/11635859

https://www.democraticunderground.com/11635860





JohnSJ

(95,424 posts)
11. Excuse me. I never said anything about Al Gore inventing the internet or Democracy Now pushing that. What I said is
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:16 PM
17 hrs ago

Democracy Now pushes the same theme that the Green Party and DSA pushes, that there is no difference between republicans and Democrats.

As for what President Carter viewed about the Palestinian situation, it wasn't just one-sided, and he would have NEVER justified what Hamas did on October 7, and in fact apologized for the wrongly worded passage in his book which seemed to justify terrorism against Israel. He was and is for a two-state solution which Hamas rejects, and Netanyahu was on his way out when the "brilliant" Hamas leadership thought October 7 was a good idea. That worked out real well.

You want to debate the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, it isn't as simple as some would like to present it, and President Carter made a lot of major blunders, including not evacuating the American Embassy in Iran when the the Islamic Revolution came into power, and allowing the Shah medical treatment even though he was warned of the embassy risk of that. That was a major factor in his loss to Reagan, along with his deregulations which lost the labor vote.

Uncle Joe

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12. Democracy Now isn't owned by oligarchs, major corporate conglomerates and they don't sell commercial space,
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:42 PM
16 hrs ago

so that frees them to push the truth.

With the conglomeration of the one way top down corporate media, progressive causes are at this time in our nation's history closest to equitable truth.

'No difference between the parties' you say and what's the corporate media pushing Kamala Harris to do now, "are you going have a Republican in your cabinet?

The same political party that started the "Brooks Brother's riot," judicial coup of 2000, promoted a war with Iraq based on lies, and not only enabled an obvious corrupt incompetent *rump to power but covered for him (with few exceptions) even after January 6th.

So the corporate media more than any institution promotes the parties as being the same, just different flavors of vanilla.

Uncle Joe

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14. FOX is owned by an oligarch and they make money by selling commercials, that's why we have the advanced world's
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 01:51 PM
16 hrs ago

highest priced prescription drugs and ignored global warming climate change for so long, and it's the same with the rest of the corporate media to a lesser degree.

Magoo48

(5,043 posts)
8. Won't read it?
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:50 PM
17 hrs ago

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation." -Attributed to Herbert Spencer but most likely a derivative quote from William Paley.

JohnSJ

(95,424 posts)
9. After their distorted coverage of Hillary in 2016, they are trash to me. No better than fox. But by all means enjoy.
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 12:54 PM
17 hrs ago
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