2016 Postmortem
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"We knew there was a security breach in the data, and we were just trying to understand it and what was happening," said Josh Uretsky, reached by phone on Friday morning, a day after the campaign let him go.
Uretsky says he got into the system to create a record to make it clear to anyone with NBG-VAN knowledge that he was "going through stuff that I wasn't supposed to have access to."
http://www.wmur.com/politics/fired-sanders-aide-i-wasnt-peeking-at-clinton-data-files/37026958
If this is all he did, it doesn't sound like he did anything wrong. Why did the Sanders campaign fire him?
Hopefully this can be resolved quickly.

Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)excuse his actions. It is like the shoplifter, thinking they can shoplift and get away with it then it is okay, where are the ethics?
Renew Deal
(84,532 posts)He shouldn't be fired if this is all he did. He's not a shoplifter. He's a whistleblower.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Renew Deal
(84,532 posts)The firing seems like an over-reaction.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Even Sanders has reacted to this action, now go and tell Sanders he should not have fired the guy.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)He deserved to be fired...
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He did not do Sanders any favors, now the DNC has remove access, guess this should send a message of ethics.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)the staff member, which should have been done.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)...data to the right people.
I am an applications developer for a living with 15 years experience with a Bachelor of Science in CIS. You really shouldn't bother trying to argue with me about this. I know what I'm talking about.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)restraint. It does not matter how many degrees one has, it does not okay unethical actions. I am not arguing about how it happens, I am saying it was not ethical, it will not help Sanders if he is trying to run a good campaign. If their access is revoked then they can blame the one who apparently could not resist unethical behavior.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)And that means you are in NO position to make any judgments regarding whether or not unethical behavior occurred. You shouldn't speak about things you know nothing about.
Many of us Bernie supporters give Hillary the benefit of the doubt on the cooked up email BS. I wish you would have enough class to do so the same.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)has responded correctly, he fired him, where is the ethics? Is this going to be the lasting story of Sanders campaign? I do not need to be badgered, talk about having class.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)But, they've suddenly become "data security experts" when they ignored their own candidate's far-worse position on the private and unsecured server for months.
I work in data security. This is a non-issue. The breach was reported prior and within 30 minutes of the latest event. Most breaches go unnoticed for six to eight months. That this was over with and done in 30 minutes is record-breaking in terms of breach resolution.
No data was downloaded. No data was hacked.
End of story.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Some developer screwed up and exposed the wrong data to the wrong people... whether it was from a lack of checking permissions or one of the millions of other things that one could do to cause that, I don't know. But you know whats up. This is absurd.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Of course! It makes perfect sense!
Historic NY
(39,357 posts)in his peeking.
Renew Deal
(84,532 posts)Do they have evidence that they kept the files? That they used the files? Did they sell the files? Did they break in or did one more item appear in their menus? So far the story is that they identified the issue and were documenting it. If that is untrue, or if someone inside gave Sanders access then you have a story.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)terminated the staff member. This excusing information is not helping Sanders, it is hurting.
Renew Deal
(84,532 posts)It's not hurting or helping. I do wonder why they fired the whistleblower. It seems like an over-reaction.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)why continue to remind them dozens of times, allow Sanders to handle this properly before it is totally overblown.
Renew Deal
(84,532 posts)Really it's us talking to each other. I doubt the man on the street knows anything about it.
Historic NY
(39,357 posts)you wouldn't be saying that.
Renew Deal
(84,532 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Trying to see if Bernies data could be compromised. Thing is - even if the data vendor is so lax on security - the debugging of their system and trouble shooting HAS to be done by them.
It's almost like they were doing a crappy job, and repeatedly not fixing things, just to egg a real pro into trouble shooting.... So they could spring the trap and say all the effed up stuff they are saying now.
Otherwise, if that is NOT the case, then they are really too lame to be in the business. It is TOO easy to give all campaigns access to the same core records WHILE keeping their own additions hashed & secure from each other. That is, easy If you are a competent data base designer& administrator. Sounds like these bozos are neither.
Renew Deal
(84,532 posts)It's like the old "Why do you rob banks? That's where the money is" line.
And I don't think the conspiracy theory is very simple.
You're blaming the Database Administrators, but the issue is more likely with the people that give rights.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Renew Deal
(84,532 posts)
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)If they found a security breach, they should have gone straight to the DNC.
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Leftyforever
(317 posts)This episode really shows that Clinton doesn't hold a candle to Sander's on Integrity or Policy... all the Clintonistas are freaking out trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill cause they got nothing else to stand on. Sad
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)It appears that the only way people see for Sanders to have a shot is to steal.
Firing that person is called damage control. Sanders is not the first politician to do that and will not be the last.
The sad thing about information like this is that once it is out it does not go back in.
It is a pity that theft of data, in this case, will not lead to real criminal charges.
Leftyforever
(317 posts)Stop trying to paint this in your favor when you just don't know the facts yet.... sad...
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)edgineered
(2,101 posts)A well known endorsement of the product was fairly recent.