All my respect is gone for Tommy John

[EnergizedLib]

I'm not sure if this is more appropriate for the baseball forum or somewhere else on here. If it's the latter, I hope it can be moved.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/retired-pitcher-claims-his-support-of-donald-trump-has-kept-him-out-of-hall-of-fame/ar-AA1rgUBh?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=cbeabeb4267849328966febeb38d7a5b&ei=13#comments

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Rather than anything he did on the field — or the surgery that bears his name — John offered a different explanation for why he hasn't been voted into Cooperstown.

"Maybe because I voted for Donald Trump," John told The Michael Kay Show on Wednesday.

"You think that's it?" Kay responded.

"Probably," John said. "I don't know."

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All of Tommy John's BBWAA eligibility was used years before the insurrectionist came down the escalator, before the 2016 election. I never would've known he voted for TFG if he didn't say anything here, but we're supposed to believe who you voted for has an impact on you having opportunities for years and not getting in?

Now, I am completely objective when it comes to Cooperstown. I've felt Tommy John should be in, and the ridiculousness of such a claim does not change my stance on his case, but it makes me think much less of him as a human being. And I feel the same way about Curt Schilling, who also should have a plaque, but is one of the most vile human beings ever to make it to the majors.

[FSogol]

1. If you go to baseball reference and go to Tommy John' page,

You can click on hall of fame statistics. Stat-heads have created 5 metrics to predict if someone deserves to be in the hall. John falls short in 4 out of the 5 metrics.

As you mentioned, he was not allowed in long before Trumpy ran. He's just another wing nut pretending he is a victim.

[usonian]

2. If you want to repost, edit the article, select all, copy and close the page or go back.

You can paste it into a new article. Only the title needs to be retyped.

Good post.

So tired of slackers claiming to be victims. They won't take responsibility for their own lives.

[True Dough]

3. He needs surgery

like a brain transplant, not to stabilize the elbow.

[FSogol]

5. They could try taking healthy parts of his brain and sewing them into the RW portions. What would they call

that operation?

[PedroXimenez]

4. these people are such victims

nonstop whining

[ProfessorGAC]

6. My Only Disagreement...

...is on Schilling. I believe he was a steroid user who never got implicated.
How many guys in baseball history picked up 2mph on their fastball & 3" of movement on their slider after they were 32?
I think the answer is "None that were not chemically enhanced."

[Different Drummer]

7. Ah, the poor MAGA!

They are so persecuted!