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Caribbeans

(1,315 posts)
Sat May 23, 2026, 06:35 PM 18 hrs ago

Everyone Thought Hydrogen Failed -- Here's What They Missed

(Well not "Everyone", just most of the United States and the US "President" Dump, who still thinks its 1978)



Batteries vs. Hydrogen - a failed premise, these are complementary technologies. If you owned stock in a battery car company you wanted hydrogen to die. It didn't.

And it won't.

RELATED from Rotterdam, Holland

This was the World Hydrogen Summit & Exhibition 2026!
19-21 May 2026


Also:

China fast-tracks hydrogen strategy to ‘scale-up’ phase in high-stakes energy transition

China targets ‘bold innovation’ as falling renewable-energy costs allow it to leverage 50 per cent share of global green hydrogen production capacity
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3350313/china-fast-tracks-hydrogen-strategy-scale-phase-high-stakes-energy-transition

The only thing the US "targets" these days is human beings.
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Everyone Thought Hydrogen Failed -- Here's What They Missed (Original Post) Caribbeans 18 hrs ago OP
China: NNadir 16 hrs ago #1
Hyundai is manufacturing hydrogen semi's in the US OKIsItJustMe 14 hrs ago #2

NNadir

(38,587 posts)
1. China:
Sat May 23, 2026, 08:06 PM
16 hrs ago

From Statistica:



Statistica, coal plants by country.

The fossil fuel industry wants to represent that electricity in China is "green" and therefore their bait and switch "green hydrogen" via electrolysis is "green."

Hydrogen is overwhelmingly made in China from the steam reformation of coal, using coal as the heat source; this with the destruction of exergy.

The fossil fuel industry is prominently supported by antinukes, since nuclear energy is the only industry that can drive them out of business. All fossil fuel salespeople, including those wishing to rebrand fossil fuels as "hydrogen" are antinukes. There are no exceptions here, and most likely everywhere on Earth, a planet with a collapsing atmosphere.

In fact, China, has more coal powered electrical plants than the next 18 nations combined. Electricity in China is some of the dirtiest on Earth. Only 5% of the electricity in China comes from clean nuclear energy; although China leads the world in building nuclear plants, having built more than 60 in this century, with close to 40 under construction. It's not enough; that said, each nuclear plant is a coal plant not built in China, but the fact is that China has more than 90 new coal plants under construction.

In response to pro-coal antinuke propaganda seeking to rebrand fossil fuels as "hydrogen" I frequently cite my own work referencing the primary scientific literature, generally producing whining from coal salespeople at work at this rebranding.

Coal selling antinukes whine about me continuing to cite this response, but of course, the references therein only scratch the surface; anyone who is interested in the case could, if they give a shit, do the research for themselves, since tens of thousands upon upon tens of thousands of papers delineating how hydrogen is made appear in the scientific literature.

My brief referenced overview which I keep handy for whenever fossil fuel sales people hand out their line of advertised bullshit here:

A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels.

The references therein are consistent with most others in the primary scientific literature. Hydrogen is a filthy product; one necessary for industrial processes, the most important of which is the Haber-Bosch process on which the world food supply depends, but as a fuel, dangerously stupid and filthy to use.

All the slick videos produced by the fossil fuel industry pushing lies about "green hydrogen" do not change the reality; and like most outright lies by the fossil fuel industry, contribute to the ongoing collapse of the planetary atmosphere, a pernicious outcome.

Have a nice evening.





OKIsItJustMe

(22,176 posts)
2. Hyundai is manufacturing hydrogen semi's in the US
Sat May 23, 2026, 10:09 PM
14 hrs ago

Unlike Tesla, they didn’t decide to reinvent the semi (you know, putting the steering wheel in the center of the cab… did any truck driver ask for that innovation?)


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