USA Bonds Crisis - Joe Blogs

[TexasTowelie]

In this video I talk about the recent announcement that the Ratings Agency Moody's had downgraded the USA's credit rating. Moody's has rated USA Bonds as AAA since 1919 and this downgrade means that the USA is no longer rated as the highest quality risk by any of the 3 main Ratings Agencies. This downgrade will increase the interest costs for USA debt which is a problem as total debt is now more than $36 Trillion.

Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:23 DOWNGRADE
1:27 RATINGS
3:54 COUNTRY COMPARISON
5:10 BOND YIELDS
6:29 NATIONAL DEBT
7:45 INTEREST COSTS
9:26 IMPLICATIONS
10:45 USA BONDS
13:15 SUMMARY & CONCLUSION

[progree]

1. On top of bonds sucking recently and over the last several years, for example

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as of April 11:
Vanguard Intermediate Term Treasury fund (VFIUX) total return only 1.40%/yr since 1/2015
Year by year total returns with negative numbers in parentheses:
2015 1.61%
2016 1.29%
2017 1.67%
2018 1.10%
2019 6.39%
2020 8.31%
2021 (2.19%)
2022 (10.34%)
2023 4.18%
2024 1.48%
YTD 2.10%

and its purchasing power has decreased a cumulative 15.2% when inflation is taken into account.
Details: https://www.democraticunderground.com/111698737#post5

I have more on bonds at https://www.democraticunderground.com/111698737#post4

Edited to add:
Full disclosure: As financial advisors recommend for someone my age (over 70), I allocate 50% to fixed income investments and 50% to equities (actually most recommend even a higher fixed income to equities ratio for someone my age, so at50-50 I have an "aggressive" allocation). Most of my fixed income stuff is intermediate term bond funds, mostly corporate bonds. The other major part of my fixed income stuff is money market funds at Vanguard, Fidelity, and Schwab.

Disclosure: I'm not panicking on the news about Moody's ratings cut, given that the two other major ratings agencies have long ago made similar rating cuts. I just don't expect much of an impact from the Moodys news.

I should also mention that the bond performances (total returns) were hurt by the low yield era up to 2021 followed by a big rise in yields since the beginning of 2021 (rising yields cause existing bond values to drop). Existing bonds will do very well (values will go up) when inflation and longer-term inflation expectations eventually come down, though that could be years from now (or rather quickly if we have a recession).

[Warpy]

3. I'm surprised the other two haven't downgraded us still more

Fiscal governance by Goldman-Sachs with input from Milton Friedman has turned out to be a disaster for this country, albeit a slow motion enough of one not to attract tall that much attention until recently.

Now with an idiot in the White House who thinks other countries are the ones who pay tariffs we levy on their goods, our still sound but not great rating will most likely suffer, and soon.

[littlemissmartypants]

2. Bookmark. Thanks, TT. ❤️