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babylonsister

(171,485 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 09:43 AM Oct 2

US man, 81, sentenced to six months for creating giant hybrid sheep for hunting


US man, 81, sentenced to six months for creating giant hybrid sheep for hunting
Arthur Schubarth of Montana used tissue and testicles from Marco Polo sheep to clone animal and create hybrid
Associated Press
Tue 1 Oct 2024 08.41 EDT


An 81-year-old Montana man was sentenced on Monday to six months in federal prison for illegally using tissue and testicles from large sheep hunted in central Asia and the US to create hybrid sheep for captive trophy hunting in Texas and Minnesota.

The US district court judge Brian Morris said he struggled to come up with a sentence for Arthur “Jack” Schubarth of Vaughn, Montana. He said he weighed Schubarth’s age and lack of a criminal record with a sentence that would deter anyone else from trying to “change the genetic makeup of the creatures” on the Earth.

Morris also fined Schubarth $20,000 and ordered him to make a $4,000 payment to the US Fish and Wildlife Foundation. Schubarth will be allowed to self-report to a federal bureau of prisons medical facility.

“I will have to work the rest of my life to repair everything I’ve done,” Schubarth told the judge just before sentencing.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/01/sheep-cloning-montana-hunting-prison
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US man, 81, sentenced to six months for creating giant hybrid sheep for hunting (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2 OP
Sick. Sheep are, well sheep... They are naturally so passive that it would be like hunting a stuffed animal. hlthe2b Oct 2 #1
These are not domestic sheep fargone Oct 2 #5
Do you defend this? hlthe2b Oct 2 #6
This is bizarre fargone Oct 2 #7
I just asked a question. So, you do not, I gather. Good. hlthe2b Oct 2 #8
I find it weird that this is against the law Fullduplexxx Oct 2 #2
You want to play god and mess with ecosystems? Many examples of messing with species creating damage Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2 #3
Let's not forget kudzu, giant pigweed, even honeysuckle. eppur_se_muova Oct 7 #10
Agreed. intheflow Oct 2 #4
It's how we got corgis from wolves Fullduplexxx Oct 2 #9

hlthe2b

(105,647 posts)
1. Sick. Sheep are, well sheep... They are naturally so passive that it would be like hunting a stuffed animal.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 09:47 AM
Oct 2

Maybe he should be the one hunted... (no, I am NOT serious... just angry).

fargone

(186 posts)
5. These are not domestic sheep
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 10:57 AM
Oct 2

The Marco Polo is an Asian species of wild sheep similar to the North American wild big horn sheep only larger.

fargone

(186 posts)
7. This is bizarre
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 01:00 PM
Oct 2

I merely stated the fact that these are not passive stuffed animals as the previous poster suggeted. They are a wild species that is banned from import into the US presumably because there is both the risk of bringing in diseases and parasites and the risk they could crossbreed with native big horns. So what he did was illegal even before he started his cloning project. I don't hunt but I am aware that big horn sheep are hunted. The perpetrator was trying to create an oversized big horn look alike that could be shot by the idiots who get off on shooting captive animals so they could brag to their buddies that they got the biggest "big horn". Nobody does DNA tests on mounted trophies.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,505 posts)
3. You want to play god and mess with ecosystems? Many examples of messing with species creating damage
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 10:00 AM
Oct 2

* Introduction of rabbits in Australia
* Eradication of wolves in many jurisdictions

At the least it messes with ecosystems.

It may also replace native species with hybrids and/or invasive species.

Could create reservoirs for harmful diseases that irregularly get released into wider ecosystems, like bird flu for example.

eppur_se_muova

(37,161 posts)
10. Let's not forget kudzu, giant pigweed, even honeysuckle.
Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:22 PM
Oct 7

Zebra mussels, snakehead fish, Asian carp ...

Just too many examples.

intheflow

(28,818 posts)
4. Agreed.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 10:34 AM
Oct 2

It's certainly a weird and reprehensible thing to do, but it sounds like other kinds of animal husbandry and cross-breeding that's been done with domestic animals for centuries.

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