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walkingman

(9,227 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:39 PM Yesterday

Be aware of this when you do your next Win11 update

Microsoft Confirms Windows Upgrade Choice—You Must Now Decide

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/05/17/microsoft-confirms-windows-upgrade-choice-you-must-now-decide/

Microsoft has now released its latest update for Windows 11 users, which is mandatory given the raft of new security fixes accompanied by the near obligatory attack warnings. I covered the headline security fixes earlier, but perhaps just as critically this update comes with a very different warning and a key decision all users must now take.

Because “KB5058411 is a mandatory security update,” Windows Latest explains, “it’s supposed to download and install automatically whether you like it or not.” The catch with this one is that “we noticed that it finally turns on Recall, which is an AI-based feature that captures snapshots of your screen every few seconds.”

There can’t be any Windows 11 users who are still unaware of Microsoft’s controversial photographic memory upgrade — the headline AI feature now available on new Copilot+ PCs. “If you allow Recall to save snapshots,” Microsoft says, “an image of your screen will be saved every few seconds. This will create a photographic memory for you of the apps, websites, documents, and images you’ve seen on your PC.”

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CurtEastPoint

(19,441 posts)
2. and just yest. I was thinking, 'Should I go ahead and upgrade to Win 11?' Now... easy choice not to.
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:19 PM
23 hrs ago

hlthe2b

(109,701 posts)
8. I still have my older laptop on Win10 and the back-up turned on the same function...
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:38 PM
22 hrs ago

I found a way to turn it off, but it was annoying as hell. It was obvious, though because there was a file created on my back-ups that constantly updated these meaningless files that once opened were screen grabs.

UniqueUserName

(351 posts)
9. Thank you for that link!
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:39 PM
22 hrs ago

My anecdotal experience with Windows 11 is that it was NOT turned off by default on my machine. My machine came preinstalled with Win11, before Recall and Copilot were available. I did watch updates for a while.

When I first checked into the Recall brouhaha, one of the tech sites had mentioned what executables to look at. My computer did not have them. I locked down my updates to security and necessary only.

At some point, Windows updated to include Recall. I know this because, thanks to the thread reminding us of this danger, I checked my machine. Windows had installed and enable Recall. Pisses me off.

Currently, I've merely chosen to turn the feature off, but I'm not sure that this company is trustworthy. I may try the full uninstall. Thanks for the link.

Baitball Blogger

(50,002 posts)
5. Just looked it up. We'll be able to uninstall Recall.
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:40 PM
23 hrs ago

Last edited Sat May 17, 2025, 02:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Sounds like it might have use in a large corporate environment, but it's nonsense for the home user.

"In a bid to reassure Windows 10 users, Microsoft has confirmed that users will have the option to completely uninstall Recall — a reversal from its earlier stance."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/technology/tech-companies/microsoft-will-revive-privacy-nightmare-ai-screenshot-tool-recall-on-certain-windows-11-devices-within-days/ar-AA1DNXSP

LearnedHand

(4,656 posts)
10. Are they moving you to an alternative OS (Mac or Linux) when Windows 10 goes end of life?
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:01 AM
12 hrs ago

Otherwise, your firm might want to advise your clients the machines you use to process their legal documents are highly vulnerable. This would be a huge legal liability for your firm if your out-of-support Windows 10 computers were compromised and legal documents were stolen.

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