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Related: About this forumLucy Letby: police and CPS handling of case raises new concerns about convictions
When the public inquiry into the crimes of the former nurse Lucy Letby opened in Liverpool last month its chair, Lady Justice Thirlwall, dismissed concerns about the safety of the convictions as noise. The judge cautioned that questions being raised were increasing the distress of parents whose children had died or been harmed.
Letby was found guilty across two trials of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder seven others at the Countess of Chester hospital (COCH) in 2015 and 2016. Thirlwall pointed out that in May this year, the court of appeal refused Letby permission to appeal, and she said it was not the role of her inquiry to review the convictions.
Yet questions about the case, and the number of experts raising them, have continued to mount. Letby is being represented by a new barrister, Mark McDonald, and a number of specialists including leading neonatologists doctors who specialise in treating premature babies are voluntarily working with him on an application to the Criminal Cases Review Commission. Having examined the detail, these experts consider there are more plausible alternative causes of the babies deaths and collapses than those for which Letby was convicted.
The Guardian can now report on further key concerns about the case, including the approach taken by Cheshire police and the Crown Prosecution Service, and the conduct of the trials.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/10/lucy-letby-police-cps-handling-case-raises-new-concerns-about-convictions?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
I must confess that I didn't pay close attention to the Letby case when it was being prosecuted because my tolerance for "aint it awful" and "aint this murderer an awful monster" true crime stories I can't do anything about is slim and the details I did hear were just horrible for everyone concerned. But regular revelations in the likes of Private Eye are leading me to the conclusion that Letby's convictions didn't meet the standard of beyond reasonable doubt and there may have been a concerted cover-up of systemic dysfunction in her hospital's maternity facilities for which she was made a scapegoat.
IcyPeas
(22,444 posts)I first heard about it from The New Yorker article, (long article linked below) then I went on a deep dive. I believe 99.99% that she's guilty.
I get that the statisticians are questioning the chart showing that Lucy was on duty at the times of the deaths. But, coincidence or Occam's Razor? (See chart link from Reddit below)
Reading about Baby E one of the twins and the mothers testimony was pretty devastating. Also reading about the triplets, Baby O and Baby P were killed and the parents insisted on moving the surviving baby to another hospital. Also Baby F and Baby I poisoned with insulin and both times only Lucy and one other nurse were on duty.
I dunno.... could there be so many coincidences? there seems to be enough evidence. She did things like going into work when she wasn't scheduled, took tons of paperwork home that she shouldn't have. Lots of questionable behavior.
And 2 juries have now found her guilty.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/aug/18/lucy-letby-timeline-attacks-babies-when-alarm-raised
Lots of info here too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Letby
Also, you can listen to transcripts of testimony on this YouTube channel: (like I said, I went on a deep dive.)
There's a Reddit dedicated to the case with lots of transcript images and exhibits. Look at this chart showing who was on duty each time there was a death:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lucyletby/s/w426zK3dZD
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/20/lucy-letby-was-found-guilty-of-killing-seven-babies-did-she-do-it
Emrys
(7,779 posts)Since you seem to have been so interested in the case, here are the Private Eye reports I referred to:
The Lessons of the Lucy Letby Case
MD on medical experts and a fair trial
By Dr Phil Hammond (MD)
After Lucy Letby was convicted in August 2023 of murdering seven babies, a number of experts contacted Eye columnist MD because they "believe the science and statistics presented at the trial were incomplete and flawed and that the case against Letby was not proven beyond reasonable doubt". In this five part Special Report Dr Phil Hammond lays out the case of why he thinks the nurse should be allowed to appeal.
https://www.private-eye.co.uk/special-reports/lucy-letby
I don't know if they made it across the Pond, but other UK media have been picking through the evidence as anomalies emerge, such as The Telegraph. Private Eye itself casts doubt on the insulin poisoning. Anything I might have to say about the case is in its reports.
IcyPeas
(22,444 posts)I will read these reports too.