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Stargleamer

(2,455 posts)
1. Although. . .
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jul 5

Despite the Trump MAGA cuts to our National Weather Service, they did do their job. The NWS sent an urgent flash flood/evacuation message at 01:30 am. Local officials ignored the warning and waited until 05:16 am to warn affected residents to evacuate.

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Dr Kiddo (@drkiddo.bsky.social) 2025-07-05T16:51:06.743Z

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,244 posts)
7. NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jul 6

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

🚨 NYT: As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

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MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2025-07-06T04:33:59.776Z



https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnings-vacancies.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU8.Zjkx.evidtrUYt_ZY&smid=tw-share

Crucial positions at the local offices of the National Weather Service were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central Texas on Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether staffing shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to coordinate with local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.....

The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those former officials said — the loss of experienced people who would typically have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours after flash flood warnings were issued overnight.

The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized as the death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have emerged about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr County’s apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county, roughly 50 miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths occurred......

The National Weather Service’s San Angelo office, which is responsible for some of the areas hit hardest by Friday’s flooding, was missing a senior hydrologist, staff forecaster and meteorologist in charge, according to Tom Fahy, the legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, the union that represents Weather Service workers.

The Weather Service’s nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning coordination meteorologist and science officer, Mr. Fahy said. Staff members in those positions are meant to work with local emergency managers to plan for floods, including when and how to warn local residents and help them evacuate.

That office’s warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees, according to a person with knowledge of his departure......

John Sokich, who until January was director of congressional affairs for the National Weather Service, said those unfilled positions made it harder to coordinate with local officials because each Weather Service office works as a team. “Reduced staffing puts that in jeopardy,” he said......

An equally important question, he added, was how the Weather Service was coordinating with local emergency managers to act on those warnings as they came in.

“You have to have a response mechanism that involves local officials,” Dr. Uccellini said. “It involves a relationship with the emergency management community, at every level.”

But that requires having staff members in those positions, he said......

Typically, Mr. Sokich said, the Weather Service will send an official to meet regularly with local emergency managers for what are called “tabletop operations” — planning ahead of time for what to do in case of a flash flood or other major weather disaster.

But the Trump administration’s pursuit of fewer staff members means remaining employees have less time to spend coordinating with local officials, he said.

I have been through a number of hurricanes/storms including Ike, Allison, Harvey and lately Berly. There were weather service people coordinating with local officials during all of these storms. Here the DOGE and trump cuts meant that the weather service did not have the staff available to coordinate with the local officials.

Silent Type

(10,473 posts)
3. Fine with blaming trump, although sounds to me Texas had warnings and just didn't get people out of the way.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jul 5

The forcasts were there, the local officials were stupid and are trying to blame their ineptness on others.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,244 posts)
4. Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:17 PM
Jul 5


Nim Kidd, chief of the Texas Division of Emergency Management, told a news conference on Friday night that the National Weather Service (NWS) forecast “did not predict the amount of rain that we saw.”

Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS.

IbogaProject

(4,638 posts)
5. yep the weather forecasts and temp reporting have been worsening
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:35 PM
Jul 5

They don't update temperature as often as in the past, for example.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,244 posts)
6. The ideological dismantling of NOAA and NWS begins on page 674 of Project 2025 and is well underway.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:06 PM
Jul 5

One of the provisions of Project 2025 was the dismantling of NOAA and NWS. We are seeing the results




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