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SARose

(1,680 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 10:51 AM Jul 4

Fatalities confirmed in Kerr County flooding along Guadalupe River, sheriff's office says

SAN ANTONIO – The Kerr County Sheriff’s Office has confirmed fatalities in the catastrophic flooding event along the Guadalupe River on Friday morning.

The sheriff’s office did not confirm how many people were killed and said it would not release further information until families of the victims were notified.

More than 6 inches of rain fell in the Kerr County area overnight, resulting in major flooding along the Guadalupe River. Click here for the latest forecast.

Local authorities are working with other county and state agencies to respond to rescues.

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Link above is a local tv station.

Reports a family with two children disappeared in their home very early this am.

We’re good. Been lightly raining here all morning.

Please send some happy thoughts/prayers to the folks in Kerrville, Comfort, and Center Point, Tx. It’s terrible.

The Guadalupe River is at 30 feet and still rising. Major flooding occurs at 23 ft.

Happy Fourth all!

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Fatalities confirmed in Kerr County flooding along Guadalupe River, sheriff's office says (Original Post) SARose Jul 4 OP
Yikes. Take care! mwmisses4289 Jul 4 #1
Thanks! SARose Jul 4 #2
Please stay safe and vigilant evemac Jul 4 #3
Good to hear you're ok.. carpetbagger Jul 4 #4
Hope you're high and dry in S.A. summer_in_TX Jul 5 #11
It's terrible SARose Jul 4 #5
My church has five girls and our director of family ministries in Kerrville for summer camp now. summer_in_TX Jul 4 #8
Mount Wesley should be high and dry. carpetbagger Jul 4 #9
Yes, and it is on a hill. summer_in_TX Jul 5 #10
Lots of kids in summer camps in that area, this time of year. Paladin Jul 4 #6
23 girls missing Texasgal Jul 4 #7
Texas Officials are blaming trump for the loss of life due to these floods LetMyPeopleVote Jul 5 #12
Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS. LetMyPeopleVote Jul 5 #13
NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #14

evemac

(229 posts)
3. Please stay safe and vigilant
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 03:26 PM
Jul 4

I'm at my mom's in Lampasas right now, and we've heard emergency vehicles since 4pm yesterday.

carpetbagger

(5,301 posts)
4. Good to hear you're ok..
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 03:57 PM
Jul 4

I'm in SA now after moving from Kerrville when I left the VA in April. I'm hearing some awful stuff up around Hunt and the upper river watershed where a foot fell and generated the floodwaters.

summer_in_TX

(3,690 posts)
11. Hope you're high and dry in S.A.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:18 AM
Jul 5

It’s prone to flooding itself. As are we here in the Wimberley area.

SARose

(1,680 posts)
5. It's terrible
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:36 PM
Jul 4

Some girls are missing from a church camp. At least 6 dead.

Ongoing high water rescues for folks in trees.

And all that water is heading to Canyon Lake which is kinda North of San Antonio. The lake is at historically low levels so 🤞it will absorb a lot of the flood.

summer_in_TX

(3,690 posts)
8. My church has five girls and our director of family ministries in Kerrville for summer camp now.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jul 4

They left to go on Sunday and were due to come home this afternoon. I don't think it's at the same church camp. Our conference of the United Methodist Church has a Methodist Encampment there, Mount Wesley. I am pretty sure that's where they would have gone.

We got word that they are safe, but stuck until the roads become passable.

summer_in_TX

(3,690 posts)
10. Yes, and it is on a hill.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:01 AM
Jul 5

I found out later that a couple in my Sunday school class, small group had two grandchildren at two camps in Hunt, Texas. One was actually at Camp Mystic,. They are both safe, but some of their fellow campers are not accounted for. Such a tragedy.

The children were retrieved during a respite in the weather by a parent. Our family ministries director turned back after encountering water on the road as dusk fell. She realized it was too dangerous and she was too exhausted to drive home safely through the Texas Hill Country.

Paladin

(31,014 posts)
6. Lots of kids in summer camps in that area, this time of year.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 05:05 PM
Jul 4

Plenty of anxiety, right now.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,244 posts)
13. Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 01:19 PM
Jul 5


Nim Kidd, chief of the Texas Division of Emergency Management, told a news conference on Friday night that the National Weather Service (NWS) forecast “did not predict the amount of rain that we saw.”

Maybe Trump shouldn't have defunded the NWS.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,244 posts)
14. NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 03:47 PM
Jul 6

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

🚨 NYT: As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnings-vacancies.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU8.Zjkx.evidtrUYt_ZY&smid=tw-share

Crucial positions at the local offices of the National Weather Service were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central Texas on Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether staffing shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to coordinate with local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.....

The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those former officials said — the loss of experienced people who would typically have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours after flash flood warnings were issued overnight.

The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized as the death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have emerged about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr County’s apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county, roughly 50 miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths occurred......

The National Weather Service’s San Angelo office, which is responsible for some of the areas hit hardest by Friday’s flooding, was missing a senior hydrologist, staff forecaster and meteorologist in charge, according to Tom Fahy, the legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, the union that represents Weather Service workers.

The Weather Service’s nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning coordination meteorologist and science officer, Mr. Fahy said. Staff members in those positions are meant to work with local emergency managers to plan for floods, including when and how to warn local residents and help them evacuate.

That office’s warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees, according to a person with knowledge of his departure......

John Sokich, who until January was director of congressional affairs for the National Weather Service, said those unfilled positions made it harder to coordinate with local officials because each Weather Service office works as a team. “Reduced staffing puts that in jeopardy,” he said......

An equally important question, he added, was how the Weather Service was coordinating with local emergency managers to act on those warnings as they came in.

“You have to have a response mechanism that involves local officials,” Dr. Uccellini said. “It involves a relationship with the emergency management community, at every level.”

But that requires having staff members in those positions, he said......

Typically, Mr. Sokich said, the Weather Service will send an official to meet regularly with local emergency managers for what are called “tabletop operations” — planning ahead of time for what to do in case of a flash flood or other major weather disaster.

But the Trump administration’s pursuit of fewer staff members means remaining employees have less time to spend coordinating with local officials, he said.

I have been through a number of hurricanes/storms including Ike, Allison, Harvey and lately Berly. There were weather service people coordinating with local officials during all of these storms. Here the DOGE and trump cuts meant that the weather service did not have the staff available to coordinate with the local officials.
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