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elleng

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Thu Sep 1, 2022, 04:08 AM Sep 2022

Tchaikovsky once wrote, "I played over the music of that scoundrel Brahms.

What a giftless bastard!"

We look at why the composers who disliked Brahms felt so strongly about it:

Brahms and His Symphony No. 1

n 1900, when Boston’s Symphony Hall was being built, Philip Hale, a distinguished American music critic working for the Boston Herald, suggested that a sign should be fitted over the central doorway reading, “Exit in case of Brahms”! Hale’s message is clear, if Brahms is on the program, run away as quickly as you can. We rightfully might dismiss Hale’s suggestion as sour grapes; however, at the turn of the twentieth century music criticism was not alone in expressing a pejorative and highly negative opinion of Brahms. Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky wrote: “I played over the music of that scoundrel Brahms. What a giftless bastard! It annoys me that this self-inflated mediocrity is hailed as a genius.” Hugo Wolf suggested, “The art of composing without ideas has decidedly found in Brahms one of its worthiest representatives.” Gustav Mahler, after his first composition failed to win a prize, with Brahms at the head of the selection committee, wrote “I have gone through all of Brahms pretty well by now. All I can say of him is that he’s a puny little dwarf with a rather narrow chest.” And Benjamin Britten quipped, “It’s not bad Brahms I mind’, it’s good Brahms I can’t stand.” Friedrich Nietzsche suggested that the music of Brahms “perspires profusely,” and to George Bernard Shaw it sounded, “extremely constipated.” These exaggerated visceral reactions and earthy comparisons to bodily functions are not merely the result of professional jealousy or the effect Brahms’s music had on his critics. Rather, the vicious and personal nature of the criticism suggests that the real target was Brahms himself. However you look at it, there is a clear disconnect between the way Brahms was perceived at the turn of the 20th-Century, and the way we think of him today. Instead of giving you a play by play of the labored gestation of the Symphony No. 1 in C minor, Op. 68 — and indeed, Brahms spent nearly twenty-one years completing this work — let us briefly untangle the mechanism that fused Brahms the man and Brahms the composer into an idealized and naïve package for easy consumption.'>>>

Johannes Brahms: Symphony No. 1 in C minor, Op. 68 – I. Un poco sostenuto – Allegro (Vienna Symphony Orchestra; Sergiu Celibidache, cond.)

https://interlude.hk/brahms-and-his-symphony-no-1/?

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Tchaikovsky once wrote, "I played over the music of that scoundrel Brahms. (Original Post) elleng Sep 2022 OP
you got me curious. Tetrachloride Sep 2022 #1
Ditto, gotta go back to it! elleng Sep 2022 #2
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