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Taverner

(55,476 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:40 PM Nov 2012

Having an extra-marital affair is...

What are your thoughts on it?


19 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Wrong in all circumstances
11 (58%)
Wrong in most circumstances
2 (11%)
Niether wrong nor right
5 (26%)
Right in most circumstances
0 (0%)
Right in all circumstances
0 (0%)
Huh?
1 (5%)
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Having an extra-marital affair is... (Original Post) Taverner Nov 2012 OP
Why do you ask? femmocrat Nov 2012 #1
I smell flowers. Iggo Nov 2012 #9
Poly? Chan790 Nov 2012 #2
More complication than I want in my life OmahaBlueDog Nov 2012 #3
A very fast way sarisataka Nov 2012 #4
I would have voted "FUN" waddirum Nov 2012 #5
...seldom worth the consequences. bluedigger Nov 2012 #6
... Newt Gingrich lutefisk Nov 2012 #7
No one's business except those involved. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #8
By "affair" I assume one party in the marriage does not consent dr.strangelove Nov 2012 #10
Yup, it isn't the act, but the deception Spike89 Nov 2012 #17
relationships dr.strangelove Dec 2012 #40
would you consent or forgive it? Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #32
of course not dr.strangelove Dec 2012 #41
just making sure - Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #42
"something you should blog about?" n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #11
+1 Chan790 Nov 2012 #12
Huh? retread Nov 2012 #13
i thought 'dangerous' first rurallib Nov 2012 #14
What if your wife hooks you up? TrogL Nov 2012 #15
There have been circumstances where a spouse has disappeared, is in extremis, etc. nolabear Nov 2012 #16
None of my business! bigwillq Nov 2012 #18
It depends. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #19
Sorry for an unrelated question but.... Taverner Nov 2012 #20
I'm a great lover of irony. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #21
No president today could get away with publicly threatening to hang his (former)VP Kaleva Nov 2012 #22
Different times for sure. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #23
I think Cleveland is the only President who executed a condemned prisoner Kaleva Nov 2012 #29
Yes, two of them. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #30
And I think Jackson was shot by a man who later became a U.S Senator Kaleva Nov 2012 #31
That would be Thomas Hart Benton Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #46
Nowadays we can't even get an indictment. rug Nov 2012 #24
Your answer should be the same as your wife's. rug Nov 2012 #25
Agreed. nt ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #28
...something I'd almost kill for... lastlib Nov 2012 #26
Right and wrong comes from the observor, and not the matter or event being observed. ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #27
How very empirical of an answer. Chan790 Nov 2012 #33
And look! the poll has over 80 observers! eom yawnmaster Dec 2012 #34
What? Is this a joke based on number of views? ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #35
I had an affair and don't regret it Ex Lurker Dec 2012 #36
"cold, distant, borderline abusive, and they hadn't had sex in over a year ..." dawg Dec 2012 #47
+100 Taverner Dec 2012 #50
Done at your own peril, because you know better. n/t flvegan Dec 2012 #37
Regardless of morality, there are some VERY serious risks to consider. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #38
I think they are wrong, but God did not make judge and jury. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #39
Just so long as the silentwarrior Dec 2012 #43
"Stupid." Brigid Dec 2012 #44
Trouble. mnhtnbb Dec 2012 #45
None of my business if it isn't my marriage. MadrasT Dec 2012 #48
+100 Taverner Dec 2012 #49
agreed La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2012 #53
a long and winding road. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #51
My Ex-Wife's Affair Ended Our Marriage cantbeserious Dec 2012 #52

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
3. More complication than I want in my life
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:30 PM
Nov 2012

If David Petraeus, head of the world's most powerful spy organization, can't hide his indiscretions, then I'm too stupid to hide mine.

..and besides, I have no desire to cheat on the lovely Mrs. OBD.

Behind the Aegis

(55,695 posts)
8. No one's business except those involved.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:38 AM
Nov 2012

I don't think extra-marital affairs are all bad. Different people have different needs, and if those are set up in advance, then why the need to judge?

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
10. By "affair" I assume one party in the marriage does not consent
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:02 AM
Nov 2012

in which case, it is wrong. If the relationship members have agreed to allow such activity without informing the other, then its not really an affair, its just a night out.

But its really up to the people in the relationship. Maybe one consented later, forgiving the behavior. All I know is my wife would never consent or forgive it.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
17. Yup, it isn't the act, but the deception
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 05:14 PM
Nov 2012

Deceiving anyone is always wrong, but it often mitigated (white lies). Having the sex is almost always a good thing, but often is sullied by circumstances.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
40. relationships
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:49 AM
Dec 2012

I think the most important foundation piece of any relationship is trust. When you are in a committed relationship, the loss of trust that is accompanied by cheating is often what causes it to fail. Its not jealousy or anger, just the end of the trust.

dr.strangelove

(4,851 posts)
41. of course not
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 09:50 AM
Dec 2012

I was trying to be funny. I would not expect my wife to forgive it, nor would I forgive it.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
12. +1
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:44 AM
Nov 2012

Especially if you live in DC. It's a great way to get a book-deal or boost sales of your book.

(Really, it seems that infidelity is the sport of the entitled and powerful in DC. Every time it happens, it makes a star out of some person ugly on the inside willing to make a buck off hurting people for public attention.)

nolabear

(43,836 posts)
16. There have been circumstances where a spouse has disappeared, is in extremis, etc.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 03:30 PM
Nov 2012

It could be understandable. Being alone forever is not something I'd wish on anyone.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
19. It depends.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:40 PM
Nov 2012

There is no black and white answer. It's always wrong if you have a willing partner. It's never wrong if your spouse is cool with it. It's sometimes ok if you really love your spouse but they are unwilling or incapable.

It's complicated.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
20. Sorry for an unrelated question but....
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:44 PM
Nov 2012

Your sig is "If we must do evil to prevent evil there is nothing worth saving."

Yet your avatar is Andrew Jackson, who would have been cited for genocide had the Hague existed back then.

Not trying to attack - just asking if you know the dichotomy

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
21. I'm a great lover of irony.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 08:55 PM
Nov 2012

And the world wasn't sophisticated enough for a Hague to exist back then. Through the eyes of today he most certainly was guilty of crimes against humanity. In his time he was a bold, take no shit pioneer.

But to answer your question, yes. I am aware. Keeps people off balance.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
23. Different times for sure.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:20 PM
Nov 2012

Dudes were just much bigger badasses back then. Old Hickory would beat the hell out of prissy wusses like Mitch McConnell and John Boner. There would be none of the crap that Obama has to put up with. Jackson would kill these people, literally.

Kaleva

(40,038 posts)
29. I think Cleveland is the only President who executed a condemned prisoner
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:50 PM
Nov 2012

If I recall correctly, Cleveland, when sheriff of Buffalo, hanged a prisoner sentenced to death.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
30. Yes, two of them.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:59 PM
Nov 2012

He actually held the title of executioner.

Jackson, on the other hand, killed a guy in a duel for insulting him and beat the hell out of a would be assassin with his cane. Not a guy to mess with.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
46. That would be Thomas Hart Benton
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 01:51 AM
Dec 2012

who was, in the Senate, a political ally of Jackson's and a staunch Democrat.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
27. Right and wrong comes from the observor, and not the matter or event being observed.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 09:43 PM
Nov 2012

Extra-marital affairs in a loving, monogamous relationship can be extremely hurtful.

Extra-marital affairs in an arranged marriage can be extremely dangerous, but also very understandable.

Extra-marital affairs in a loving, open relationship can be extremely exciting, and can also help bring the couple closer together.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
33. How very empirical of an answer.
Fri Nov 30, 2012, 11:02 PM
Nov 2012

"Right and wrong comes from the observor, and not the matter or event being observed."

Really, that's some sort of brilliant moral empiricism. I wonder what David Hume would make of it...on one hand, he was the father of empiricism, responsible for that aged question "If a tree falls in the forest and there is nobody to hear it, does it make a sound?"; on the other, he was a conservative judgmental prat.

Ex Lurker

(3,966 posts)
36. I had an affair and don't regret it
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 01:58 AM
Dec 2012

I am a single man, my partner was married at the time. Although we didn't consummate it until after my partner and her spouse were separated, we met while they were still living under the same roof. Her husband was cold, distant, borderline abusive, and they hadn't had sex in over a year. We met online through a mutual friend. Spent a lot of time together online and on the phone, met a few times, but as I stated before, we didn't consummate the relationship while she and her husband were together. Not that we weren't willing, but it seemed it would add needless risk and complication.

Her divorce becomes final in a few weeks, and we plan to continue our relationship. I don't know where it will go from here, but under the same circumstances I would do so again.

dawg

(10,777 posts)
47. "cold, distant, borderline abusive, and they hadn't had sex in over a year ..."
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 02:28 PM
Dec 2012

I wonder if some guy out there believed all those same things about me? Probably. It helps with the guilt.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
39. I think they are wrong, but God did not make judge and jury.
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 02:33 AM
Dec 2012

To me that means I should not sit in judgement of others. I could not sleep with a married man, because I do not want the sin of adultery on my soul.

mnhtnbb

(32,958 posts)
45. Trouble.
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:32 AM
Dec 2012

Better to sort out why--if tempted--and deal with the issues. Separate, if necessary.

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