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Jilly_in_VA

(13,785 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 09:45 AM Thursday

Well. it always has to be someone

There's a long-standing joke in my family that someone is always sick on holidays, especially Thanksgiving and Christmas. My daughter had strep on Thanksgiving, so I guess it was my turn to be sick for Christmas this year. And it's a besut, too...some kind of viral thing with cough, ears plugged up, runny nose, the works. Yesterday I didn't even get our of bed and couldn't indulge in one of my favorite sick day pleasures, which is reading. Today I am vertical but can't eat---food tastes yucky. So much for Christmas dinner! I will probably spend the day on the couch. The only thing I know for sure is that it's not flu or covid as I had my shots for both, so here's a big razzberry to RFK Jr. and may rats spit in his plum pudding!

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Well. it always has to be someone (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Thursday OP
Oh blech! I hope you feel better soon! CousinIT Thursday #1
A friend of mine Delarage Thursday #2
The actual problem with this year's flu shot is NOT that research was cut PoindexterOglethorpe Thursday #18
curious... Tetrachloride Thursday #21
But true, nonetheless. PoindexterOglethorpe Thursday #22
Good to know! Delarage Thursday #23
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I do wish that you will be able to enjoy at least the spirit of Christmas today. riversedge Thursday #3
Me too!! leftieNanner Thursday #4
Yikes. Bad timing for the illness, Jilly! LuckyCharms Thursday #5
Best recovery. cachukis Thursday #6
I missed all four Christmas parties of the groups I'm involved with The Blue Flower Thursday #7
The shots don't prevent COVID or flu, they just mitigate the disease. Best to test so you know what you have Blues Heron Thursday #8
Correct! biophile Thursday #11
No, it was designed to be a COVID vaccine. Vaccines don't prevent infection, it's not a protective bubble Blues Heron Thursday #16
I'm agreeing with you; but probably expressing it poorly biophile Thursday #24
The goal with all vaccines is to create the best response possible, lifetime immunity if possible Blues Heron Thursday #25
Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #33
I really can't believe that people believe this sort of thing. NNadir 17 hrs ago #35
Awful! Dear_Prudence Thursday #9
My 5 year old step-Granddaughter is sick this year. House of Roberts Thursday #10
You could still have the flu biophile Thursday #12
Healing vibes on the way to you, Jilly! SheltieLover Thursday #13
Trump is back in power and he brings with him another pandemic, methinks. rurallib Thursday #14
Get well wishes to you 🙏 TommieMommy Thursday #15
Merry Christmas! I am on day 7 of what sounds like the same thing. The good news: Scrivener7 Thursday #17
Sounds like the current variant of Covid. Hope22 Thursday #19
Bummer. I hope you are much better soon. LoisB Thursday #20
Everyone around me bamagal62 Thursday #26
they have never claimed you cannot get covid/or flu if you are vaccinated Skittles Thursday #27
I got Covid after having all the shots. Irish_Dem Thursday #28
Feel better soon Jilly_in_VA. MIButterfly Thursday #29
I had all vaccines and have Flu A, as does my husband. halobeam Yesterday #30
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There is a new strain. Codifer 18 hrs ago #31
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CousinIT

(12,169 posts)
1. Oh blech! I hope you feel better soon!
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 09:48 AM
Thursday

Be sure to drink plenty of fluids, if possible.

At first, I thought you might be posting about the lottery, since some lucky person won the big prize: https://www.newsbreak.com/business-insider-562169/4412642059133-powerball-just-announced-the-winning-ticket-of-its-1-82-billion-jackpot

Feel better soon, Jilly!

Delarage

(2,533 posts)
2. A friend of mine
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 09:50 AM
Thursday

Got the flu shot and currently is down and out with the flu, too. She is originally from Australia. Said she read that we usually base our vaccine on what was prevalent in the Southern Hemisphere, but that a lot of that research was cut back due to RFK and Piggy. I had not read that but it is probably true 🤷‍♂️. Hope you feel better soon!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,436 posts)
18. The actual problem with this year's flu shot is NOT that research was cut
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:59 AM
Thursday

back significantly. It's that not a single type A virus was included in this year's which turns out, apparently, to be the major strain this year. So this year's shot is far more ineffective than usual. The shots will range from 30% - 60% effective most years, so they are helpful.

It's actually not a good idea to get the shot every year, that every other year is perfectly adequate.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,436 posts)
22. But true, nonetheless.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 12:41 PM
Thursday

I think it's extremely important not to claim Trump and his ilk are doing things they are not doing. They did NOT cut research into flu viruses. It's just that making a flu shot requires guessing what version of flu will be around six months or more down the road. Some years the guesses are better than other years.

Delarage

(2,533 posts)
23. Good to know!
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 01:58 PM
Thursday

I'll let her know. He's been too busy dismantling democracy and enriching himself to destroy EVERYTHING, LOL. I did get the shot so I'll just hope I don't run into that strain 🙏

Response to Delarage (Reply #2)

riversedge

(79,216 posts)
3. I do wish that you will be able to enjoy at least the spirit of Christmas today.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 09:51 AM
Thursday

🎄🎅🏻⛄️

leftieNanner

(16,101 posts)
4. Me too!!
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 09:53 AM
Thursday

Hope it gets better before I have to get on the plane to fly home.

Best wishes for a quick recovery.

And Merry Christmas 🎄

LuckyCharms

(21,469 posts)
5. Yikes. Bad timing for the illness, Jilly!
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 09:55 AM
Thursday

But the good news is, you WILL feel better soon!

I'm sorry that you are feeling so poorly this Christmas.

Please take care of yourself today. Relax, lay on the couch, and rest up.

Today is just one day out of many, and you'll have plenty of other good days.

Please feel better soon, and although you are not feeling very merry today, I'll wish you a Merry Christmas anyway, and wish better days ahead for you!

The Blue Flower

(6,312 posts)
7. I missed all four Christmas parties of the groups I'm involved with
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:01 AM
Thursday

Due to a rotten cold. Just rest, get your chicken soup into your stomach, and wait it out as comfortably as you can. May the spirit of Christmas lift yours today.

Blues Heron

(8,269 posts)
8. The shots don't prevent COVID or flu, they just mitigate the disease. Best to test so you know what you have
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:01 AM
Thursday

biophile

(1,172 posts)
11. Correct!
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:12 AM
Thursday

The Covid shot was not a traditional vaccine for preventing Covid. It was really designed to keep people from disease severe enough to require hospitalization.

Blues Heron

(8,269 posts)
16. No, it was designed to be a COVID vaccine. Vaccines don't prevent infection, it's not a protective bubble
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:38 AM
Thursday

It wasn’t designed with any built in limitations if that’s what you’re saying, it was designed to do the best job possible against this moving target. What you are saying is a persistent myth, that it was somehow purposely limited.

biophile

(1,172 posts)
24. I'm agreeing with you; but probably expressing it poorly
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 07:55 PM
Thursday

What I meant to convey was that the Covid shot was not a traditional vaccine in the sense that it administered a preparation of an antigen- killed, live, or partially attenuated in order to produce a immune response to that organism or virus. The Covid shot was an mRNA - designed to teach our immune systems to recognize the virus, it wasn’t the virus itself. It is supposed to produce the immune response like a traditional vaccine, just like you said. The manufacturers - at least in the first rollout in 2021- did not claim that it prevented COVID symptoms or even COVID infection. The goal during that time was to prevent severe disease to prevent the burden on hospitals. The definition of vaccine was changed to accommodate the new mRNA technology and to dispel the impression that vaccines always provided immunity, which was not true.

Blues Heron

(8,269 posts)
25. The goal with all vaccines is to create the best response possible, lifetime immunity if possible
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 08:08 PM
Thursday

That’s it.

Response to Blues Heron (Reply #16)

NNadir

(37,213 posts)
35. I really can't believe that people believe this sort of thing.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 08:55 PM
17 hrs ago

The "shots" are vaccines, not treatments. If one already has Covid or the flu, vaccines are useless.

There are treatments for both flu and Covid but they are not injectable drugs.

Tamiflu (oseltamivir), Xofluza (baloxavir), Relenza (zanamivir), and Rapivab (peramivir)
for flu, Paxlovid for Covid are oral drugs.

It is true for retroviruses in particular with fast reproduction - and thus evolution - rates, resistant strains to vaccines develop quickly so the disease can still occur, generally in a milder form as the antibodies generated by B cells may have lower binding efficiency, but vaccines prevent disease, they do not cure it.

For treatments this can also occur. We saw this with the early protease inhibitors for AIDS, aspartyl proteases, p55 gag proteins, where resistance developed generally along single nucleotide polymorphisms (and on occasion, multiple nucleotide polymorphisms, for example the M46I/I47V/I50V mutations that showed resistance to Amprenavir).

This is not a place to spread misinformation about the difference between vaccines and treatments.

House of Roberts

(6,380 posts)
10. My 5 year old step-Granddaughter is sick this year.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:10 AM
Thursday

The family get together was to be tomorrow, now it's postponed.

biophile

(1,172 posts)
12. You could still have the flu
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:15 AM
Thursday

You might have gotten a strain that this years shot didn’t cover. See Blue Heron post above - vaccines don’t prevent everything - they are often just helpful in mitigating symptoms.
That said- RFK can still get raspberries for some misguided policies!

SheltieLover

(76,241 posts)
13. Healing vibes on the way to you, Jilly!
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:17 AM
Thursday

I hope you feel better soon & that your left-overs are better than when fresh!

Merry Christmas! 🤶🎄

Scrivener7

(58,165 posts)
17. Merry Christmas! I am on day 7 of what sounds like the same thing. The good news:
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 10:39 AM
Thursday

those acute symptoms were mostly gone by day 5. I almost always go into bronchitis with this kind of thing, and this time I didn't. I'm still clearing a little, but mostly done.

The bad news: I'm still just exhausted. I usually walk 3 or 4 miles a day. The day before yesterday, I walked half a mile and needed to sleep 12 hours. Yesterday it was a mile and and then went to a Christmas Eve party. Was home by 9 and again, slept 12 hours.

That is slowly improving, and I guess all that sleep is good for me.

Feel much better very soon, and try to have a great day in spite of your symptoms!

Hope22

(4,434 posts)
19. Sounds like the current variant of Covid.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 11:29 AM
Thursday

Make sure to stay hydrated and move around regularly if you are stable on your feet! When we were passing it around they called it a cold but shortly after that it was reclassified as Covid. The tests did not work for it. Take care! I hope you are feeling better soon! Peace and love to you!🙏🏼❤️💐

bamagal62

(4,327 posts)
26. Everyone around me
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 08:29 PM
Thursday

seems to be sick. I know of people with flu, covid, pneumonia, strep throat, and some respiratory virus.
I'm currently sitting here with a bad sore throat and sinus congestion.

Skittles

(169,291 posts)
27. they have never claimed you cannot get covid/or flu if you are vaccinated
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 08:34 PM
Thursday

only that your symptoms may be greatly decreased

Irish_Dem

(79,452 posts)
28. I got Covid after having all the shots.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 08:35 PM
Thursday

So keep an eye on your illness, and take a test if it gets worse.

MIButterfly

(1,911 posts)
29. Feel better soon Jilly_in_VA.
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 09:46 PM
Thursday

Being sick is no fun. Get lots of rest and keep hydrated.

I still have a lingering cough from whatever the hell I had last month and it's really starting to get on my nerves.

halobeam

(5,083 posts)
30. I had all vaccines and have Flu A, as does my husband.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 01:37 AM
Yesterday

We both had different symptoms too. Mine has me in bed, 10 days and counting (fever, bad body aches, horrible cough). His had him down and out for five days (no fever, no body aches, but congestion, cough, exhaustion).

You can not be sure you don't have something because you were vaccinated, and definitely can't be sure without being tested.

Please get tested, if you have something, you can still feel better but be contagious.

This season is flooded with all kinds of viruses and there isn't any one I know who doesn't know someone whose family is really sick.

I hope you feel better soon!

Response to halobeam (Reply #30)

Codifer

(1,143 posts)
31. There is a new strain.
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 07:11 PM
18 hrs ago

I have it I think: exhausted, body aches, fever that comes and goes, headache, no appetite. Very thirsty.

I spent Christmas day in bed woke up in the early AM drenched with sweat.

I believe it is called H3B2. I will do more research.

Hope you are better.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2843197

edit to add: That should be A(H3N2) subclave K.

I am not a doctor

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