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mvd

(65,382 posts)
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I'll add that mvd Aug 19 #1
In your previous post from four days ago, you mentioned making yet another donation Harker Aug 19 #2
That's when my mom's Social Security comes in mvd Aug 19 #5
If you're repeatedly running fundraising efforts at DU Harker Aug 19 #16
IF, IF these years-long begging tales of woe are true XanaDUer2 Aug 19 #3
Well, we all knew this swas coming!! Please, would you bluestarone Aug 19 #4
Two years ago someone estimated $10,000 over the years question everything Aug 20 #33
Food bank. PennRalphie Aug 19 #6
Your idea of grocery gift cards XanaDUer2 Aug 19 #7
I remember suggesting that PennRalphie Aug 19 #8
And he liked cash better XanaDUer2 Aug 19 #9
He has $100 PennRalphie Aug 19 #10
I don't have "friends" donating mvd Aug 19 #11
I have a great idea ForgedCrank Aug 19 #18
Guaranteed job for disabled XanaDUer2 Aug 19 #19
This is easier JoseBalow Aug 19 #20
Oh good gods. Here's job idea #241... Hekate Aug 19 #12
Great idea XanaDUer2 Aug 19 #13
I'll admit your situation is frustrating PennRalphie Aug 19 #14
My local Dem club XanaDUer2 Aug 19 #15
Here's a link to your county Aging Department... Harker Aug 19 #17
Harker, I have a question for you. My husband and I both have Medicare, yet we also pay for BCBS. I often wondered why. debm55 Aug 19 #21
You can make a payment plan XanaDUer2 Aug 19 #22
Thank you XanaDUer2. I was not sure but I thought that is how it works. I do know people that have only medicare and no debm55 Aug 19 #23
I only have traditional Medicare XanaDUer2 Aug 19 #24
I'm not sure about your specifics, debm55... Harker Aug 19 #25
I was wondering why we are paying for a supplemental plan. debm55 Aug 19 #28
I think medicare pays 80%, that's why people need a supplement questionseverything Aug 19 #26
thank you debm55 Aug 19 #29
Medicare Part A pays only for hospitals. You need Part B for doctors and this is where BCBS question everything Aug 20 #34
We have A and B Wouldn't Matt's mother's doctor visit/hospital be covered by that.? debm55 Aug 20 #38
Wouldn't the mom's visit be noticed XanaDUer2 Aug 20 #39
The ER does at my hospital. I was playing basketball and the ball hit the backboard and hit me in the jaw. I was taken debm55 Aug 20 #40
It's good they did that XanaDUer2 Aug 20 #41
Kick for visibility mvd Aug 19 #27
Shame on you! Floyd R. Turbo Aug 19 #30
I'll give you $500 if you can prove anything that you've claimed is true JoseBalow Aug 19 #31
🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗 Floyd R. Turbo Aug 19 #32
I have plenty of proof mvd Aug 20 #35
OK, lets try this then JoseBalow Aug 20 #45
Can you be more specific? mvd Aug 20 #46
Which programs do you have proof of participating in? JoseBalow Aug 20 #47
Well.. mvd Aug 20 #48
How about the program suggested by XanaDUer2 in post #19 JoseBalow Aug 20 #50
I'm not going to be posting lots of personal info mvd Aug 20 #51
Seriously shame on you. DUers are generous to a fault but you've pushed the boundaries of their good graces MissB Aug 20 #36
There's an ForgedCrank Aug 20 #42
We don't know the work history XanaDUer2 Aug 20 #43
How much will your mother make on the sale? XanaDUer2 Aug 20 #37
As I have mentioned before.. mvd Aug 20 #44
After several years ForgedCrank Aug 20 #49
I'm saying XanaDUer2 Aug 20 #52
I'm just going to delete this mvd Aug 20 #53

mvd

(65,382 posts)
1. I'll add that
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 09:30 AM
Aug 19

I got mom to the ER and back and she has a broken wrist. I don’t know if everyone saw that on my original thread. She needs follow up which is proving to be hard.

Harker

(14,673 posts)
2. In your previous post from four days ago, you mentioned making yet another donation
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 09:31 AM
Aug 19

to the Harris/Walz campaign at the end of this month.

Your litany of self-contradictory statements is insupportable.

mvd

(65,382 posts)
5. That's when my mom's Social Security comes in
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 11:42 AM
Aug 19

And a small amount. Not contradictory at all.

Harker

(14,673 posts)
16. If you're repeatedly running fundraising efforts at DU
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 02:56 PM
Aug 19

on the basis of purported food and health crises while ignoring the reams of suggestions for what helpful programs are available to people in distress, while complaining about the precariousness of your TV streaming services and while making donations of any amount using the funds thus received, you are quite self-contradictory in my opinion.

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
3. IF, IF these years-long begging tales of woe are true
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 09:39 AM
Aug 19

It is disgusting and I hope someone gets your address and has the COPS come by and do a wellness check on your mother.

bluestarone

(17,949 posts)
4. Well, we all knew this swas coming!! Please, would you
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 10:08 AM
Aug 19

Tell EVERYONE here how many go fund me's you have had here? Be honest and right now tell DU how many you have done here!! IF you even have a mother, i feel very sorry for her, getting the help she needs!! I'll be waiting for your total go- fund me numbers.

question everything

(48,578 posts)
33. Two years ago someone estimated $10,000 over the years
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 12:56 AM
Aug 20

PennRalphie

(241 posts)
6. Food bank.
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 11:52 AM
Aug 19

You had $100 donated to your fundraiser 7 days before you posted this fundraiser here. According to the PayPal fundraiser page. That means your “friend” who always comes to your rescue is donating.

That’s more than enough for “rides”.

You already bragged about making a political donation. Even if it was $1.00, that plus a quarter would buy a bag of rice that would feed your mother. You can find rice recipes online. Our Vice President would never ever take money from someone needing food.

Use the $100 to get a “ride” to the local food bank.

Good luck. I hope your mother is okay.

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
7. Your idea of grocery gift cards
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 11:58 AM
Aug 19

Excellent. We know it is going to food and not the thousands of dollars he got here, unaccounted for, over the last few years

If you remember, he doesnt really do food banks.

So, "mom'" finally got into the ER. Hooray.

PennRalphie

(241 posts)
8. I remember suggesting that
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 12:00 PM
Aug 19

The gift cards for grocery stores might gain him more funds. I think many would be more willing to help knowing the money is going for food.

But….

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
9. And he liked cash better
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 12:02 PM
Aug 19

Of course.

PennRalphie

(241 posts)
10. He has $100
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 12:16 PM
Aug 19

I feel very confident his mother will be fed. That’s enough for a “ride”. The money left will buy rice, beans, tuna fish, peanut butter, eggs, cereal, milk, apples.

Then he can use the internet to look up recipes using the ingredients he has. He can make meals for his mother that way.

His mother will be fed this month for sure.

mvd

(65,382 posts)
11. I don't have "friends" donating
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 01:52 PM
Aug 19

I want to set the record straight here. I had a lot more than the rides. The other $100 would cover a couple co pays, more rides, food, etc. I have used the food bank before and it is a good suggestion when I can get a ride.

I never bragged about anything. Not ashamed of giving a couple bucks to help elect Harris in this vital election.

Sounds like you are just looking for things.

ForgedCrank

(2,082 posts)
18. I have a great idea
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 04:12 PM
Aug 19

for raising money.
Get a job. You can buy lots of food and instacart as well as uber with the money you earn at a job.
There is absolutely no valid reason for not having employment at this stage. The disability thing is no excuse. There are people working jobs right now from wheelchairs or without eyesight, some have even bigger challenges, and yet they work in order to support themselves. If they can do it, I believe you can do it. Your mother needs assistance from her grown adult son, she does not need a dependent.

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
19. Guaranteed job for disabled
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 04:20 PM
Aug 19

On a past fundraiser, he complained his hearing aids were not good anymore. DVR will purchase all needed assistive devices. They will find WFH jobs. They will place him.

They will do everything. He can take an hr and apply and be trained and working.

https://www.dli.pa.gov/Individuals/Disability-Services/ovr/Pages/default.aspx

I hope these suffering-mom stories are bullshit. ETA: a job will pay for some good streaming TV services!

JoseBalow

(4,723 posts)
20. This is easier
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 04:23 PM
Aug 19

Hekate

(94,001 posts)
12. Oh good gods. Here's job idea #241...
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 02:22 PM
Aug 19

Does your alleged mom need a caregiver? You could apply to the appropriate agency to be certified as same, and be paid for it.

When my late mother in law had a big stroke, the son who was living with her became her caregiver, and he was paid.



XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
13. Great idea
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 02:25 PM
Aug 19

DVR will guarantee a WFH job accomodating any disabilities. They will get him free hearing aids.

Like, 100% job, prob earning $15-$20/hr data entry. He can type. Mind-boggling

PennRalphie

(241 posts)
14. I'll admit your situation is frustrating
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 02:36 PM
Aug 19

Nobody here wants to see anyone struggling. Especially when there is a senior citizen involved who is often ill.

Like many others here, I truly worry about your mother. Does she have food? Is she safe in her home? Is she able to see doctors when necessary? Is she warm? Can she keep cool during the hot summer?

Many others have given you fantastic suggestions and hopefully, you’ve taken advantage of all of their suggestions to help your mother.

As far as political donations, you’re telling us your mother can’t see a doctor because she doesn’t have money for copays. I fully believe that VP Harris would not want your money, even if it’s one dollar, if your mother is struggling. She would want that money to go to your mother. There are other ways to help the campaign without spending money. Just reach out to your local Democratic Committee, they will be more than happy to have you on board, with no cost to you. They might also be able to arrange transportation that you need to get to food banks.

The MOST frustrating thing is — the economy is PA is absolutely booming. Biden and Shapiro have made sure of that. There are jobs everywhere. I’ve talked here about a friend of my daughter in law who just started working at home. Customer service for a national drug store chain. Is she making six figures? No. But she’s earning enough money that if you earned that, there would be zero worries about food.

In the past, you have told us about a DU’er who always helps you. That’s fantastic. Maybe work privately with that person and they may help you gain permanent employment so that these frequent fundraisers aren’t needed.

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
15. My local Dem club
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 02:43 PM
Aug 19

Brought me postcards to write and then picked them up when I explained the situation.

No, Harris/Walz would not want donations from hungry Americans. Trump, of course, is a different story...

Harker

(14,673 posts)
17. Here's a link to your county Aging Department...
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 03:36 PM
Aug 19
https://www.montgomerycountypa.gov/148/Senior-Services

You'll see a contact name and office phone number. I'm sure they could arrange a home visit to coordinate assistance.

There's also a hotline to report abuse or neglect, or to otherwise express concern for the wellness of a senior.

debm55

(32,926 posts)
21. Harker, I have a question for you. My husband and I both have Medicare, yet we also pay for BCBS. I often wondered why.
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 05:24 PM
Aug 19

I may be wrong but shouldn't Medicare pay for the doctor's visit? Medicare pays for the visit and what they don't pay for then BCBS will pay.I also thought if the bill was to large to handle at once. payments could be made in any amount as long as they were made in good faith.TY

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
22. You can make a payment plan
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 05:28 PM
Aug 19

I was told by Billing it could be low, but paid in good faith. I'll prob be setting up one for myself

debm55

(32,926 posts)
23. Thank you XanaDUer2. I was not sure but I thought that is how it works. I do know people that have only medicare and no
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 05:40 PM
Aug 19

secondary insurance.

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
24. I only have traditional Medicare
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 05:43 PM
Aug 19

Still awaiting anesthesiologist, facility, and hospital HIDA-scan bills, and I'm just worried

Harker

(14,673 posts)
25. I'm not sure about your specifics, debm55...
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 06:05 PM
Aug 19

I'm new to Medicare, and I only have hospital coverage with them, while BCBS covers regular medical, less copays, which is what the original poster mentions being problematic.

If I couldn't swing a $40 copay, I think I'd apply for Medicaid.

debm55

(32,926 posts)
28. I was wondering why we are paying for a supplemental plan.
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 08:59 PM
Aug 19

questionseverything

(9,997 posts)
26. I think medicare pays 80%, that's why people need a supplement
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 06:35 PM
Aug 19

debm55

(32,926 posts)
29. thank you
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 09:00 PM
Aug 19

question everything

(48,578 posts)
34. Medicare Part A pays only for hospitals. You need Part B for doctors and this is where BCBS
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 01:02 AM
Aug 20

comes. You also need Part D for prescriptions.

You may want to call Medicare and try to get assistance in deciphering all these.

debm55

(32,926 posts)
38. We have A and B Wouldn't Matt's mother's doctor visit/hospital be covered by that.?
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 08:36 AM
Aug 20

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
39. Wouldn't the mom's visit be noticed
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 09:07 AM
Aug 20

For constant visits. I'm screened annually for domestic violence, if I'm getting enough food, etc. If she keeps visiting the ER, why are they not asking questions? Esp about broken bones? Are they asking about home situation ( no proper bed)?

Food situation? She needs to be supported now that she's older. As in adult, middle-aged child bringing regular income into the household. Really, DVR will place in jobs. So you can, at least, buy food.

Not have an adult dependent. Aren't they moving out of the house soon?

debm55

(32,926 posts)
40. The ER does at my hospital. I was playing basketball and the ball hit the backboard and hit me in the jaw. I was taken
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 09:54 AM
Aug 20

into a separate room without my husband. and treated. The whole time I was asked over and over if he hit me. Years ago when my sister tried to strangle me, I was treated and given a neck brace and never asked. Which is confusing as there were finger marks on both sides of my neck. It was a different hospital. Yes, you are asked about abuse in recent years.

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
41. It's good they did that
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 10:04 AM
Aug 20

Alone talking to you. If mom exists, and it's not manipulation for diapers, medical-Uber monies, food , prescriptions, yadda ya...I cannot believe no one is investigating, unless they ARE... I hope it is not a situation where there is shielding to scrutiny. For whatever reasons.

mvd

(65,382 posts)
27. Kick for visibility
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 08:55 PM
Aug 19

Having some good news that the house is showing a lot of interest in the coming soon phase. Working with a good real estate agent and good lawyer. Please help through this month though as I have noticed mom has been greatly affected. Anything you can give is greatly appreciated.

Floyd R. Turbo

(28,761 posts)
30. Shame on you!
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 09:04 PM
Aug 19

JoseBalow

(4,723 posts)
31. I'll give you $500 if you can prove anything that you've claimed is true
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 09:20 PM
Aug 19

Easy money, just back up any of your claims with proof, and I'll send you $500

Floyd R. Turbo

(28,761 posts)
32. 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗
Mon Aug 19, 2024, 09:37 PM
Aug 19

mvd

(65,382 posts)
35. I have plenty of proof
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 01:53 AM
Aug 20

Everything from mom’s Social Security statement to the house being up for sale to the amount I have in the bank/PayPal to an order for mom’s X-ray. But these are personal info items. How do you want them shown? PM of any of these or whichever you want?

JoseBalow

(4,723 posts)
45. OK, lets try this then
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 01:38 PM
Aug 20

How about proof that you've signed up for any of the assistance options available to you, that have been mentioned to you repeatedly over the years... Can you share proof of that?

mvd

(65,382 posts)
46. Can you be more specific?
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 01:54 PM
Aug 20

Picture on here? By PM? And any particular programs? I don’t want this thread to be one big discussion of personal info.

JoseBalow

(4,723 posts)
47. Which programs do you have proof of participating in?
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 02:18 PM
Aug 20

mvd

(65,382 posts)
48. Well..
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 02:28 PM
Aug 20

There’s SNAP, Medicaid, LiHEAP, CAP program, and more. Do you want something different?

JoseBalow

(4,723 posts)
50. How about the program suggested by XanaDUer2 in post #19
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 02:40 PM
Aug 20
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182049097#post19

Can you show that you are doing something proactive, other than asking for handouts?

mvd

(65,382 posts)
51. I'm not going to be posting lots of personal info
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 02:50 PM
Aug 20

It’s not advisable.

MissB

(16,012 posts)
36. Seriously shame on you. DUers are generous to a fault but you've pushed the boundaries of their good graces
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 01:58 AM
Aug 20

Get a job. Or follow up on any of the hundreds of valid suggestions made to you over the years.

Stop begging for money every six weeks. Have you any shame?

More and more folks point out the inconsistencies when you post. I don’t know why DU allows this many requests- it’s gone beyond ridiculous.

Folks have need, for sure. But your need is that you need a job.

ForgedCrank

(2,082 posts)
42. There's an
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 10:31 AM
Aug 20

eerie silence anytime someone mentions getting a job and working for a living.

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
43. We don't know the work history
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 10:39 AM
Aug 20

But, if late 40s, he can get a FT job and have 20 yrs until FRA. Does someone NOT want to get his own Social Security check at 67? Ever meet anyone who got paid under the table? I did at work.

Now they need SS, were seeking it, and found out they were shit outta luck. Might get SSI. Which is ridiculously low. Do ppl think about their future?

Unless the house sale will net a small fortune so no worries. If they are subsisting solely on mom's SS, what happens when she dies or has to enter a nursing home? I'd be training for a job asap just for that scenario.

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
37. How much will your mother make on the sale?
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 05:46 AM
Aug 20

Homes in that area are 500k plus.

mvd

(65,382 posts)
44. As I have mentioned before..
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 01:06 PM
Aug 20

A lot of extra expenses and money goes fast when you are struggling for this long. Anyone who has any questions can PM. Personal info can lead to trouble especially with some who come on my threads.

Next month should be more normal with expenses.

ForgedCrank

(2,082 posts)
49. After several years
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 02:37 PM
Aug 20

of these emergency fundraising threads that never end, your struggles wouldn't be an issue had you applied for and acquired gainful employment at any point, but you haven't. All we've seen are excuses as to why you can't ride a bike or how you have hearing loss. If you really do have any handicaps, you would be hired almost immediately by many employers; you aren't even trying. Time to man up and support yourself rather than riding your mothers SS benefits and the blind kindness of DU members, many of whom probably have even less than you do.
Maybe you can show us the doctors write-up that explains what absolutely prohibits you from getting a job? That might just provoke an apology from me, and maybe even a donation.

XanaDUer2

(13,211 posts)
52. I'm saying
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 02:53 PM
Aug 20

Contact PA dept of vocational rehab for the disabled, and he'll prob be working in a few weeks. With new hearing aids and any other assistive devices needed..they counsel you...come up with your plan by exploring your vocational interests...they place you...its what we pay taxes for, and they're wonderful.

mvd

(65,382 posts)
53. I'm just going to delete this
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 02:54 PM
Aug 20

It’s just more stress at this point. I can talk by PM but will not be sharing all kinds of personal info in public

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