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sl8

(16,910 posts)
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 06:58 AM Nov 2022

22 Maps That Show How Americans Speak English Totally Differently From One Another

From 2013.

https://www.businessinsider.com/22-maps-that-show-the-deepest-linguistic-conflicts-in-america-2013-6

22 Maps That Show How Americans Speak English Totally Differently From One Another

Walt Hickey Jun 5, 2013, 12:24 PM

Everyone knows Americans don't agree on pronunciations.

That's great, because regional accents are a major part of what makes American English so interesting.

Joshua Katz, a Ph.D. student of statistics at North Carolina State University, published a group of awesome visualizations of professor Bert Vaux and Scott Golder's linguistic survey, which looked at how Americans pronounce words (via detsl on /r/Linguistics).

His results were first published on The Abstract, the NC State University research blog. The complete set of Katz's maps, updated with the results from over 350,000 new survey responses, are compiled in the new book "Speaking American," out October 25 from Houghton Mifflin Harcourt.

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22 Maps That Show How Americans Speak English Totally Differently From One Another (Original Post) sl8 Nov 2022 OP
Despite being a lifelong resident of NJ, I've been told that my "accent" no_hypocrisy Nov 2022 #1
I know in Delaware and the Philadelphia area ice is made of frozen "wooder" Walleye Nov 2022 #2
In some parts of the south, evolves Nov 2022 #13
Some of those are interesting Clash City Rocker Nov 2022 #3
If it has tolls... PJMcK Nov 2022 #7
I found it interesting bamagal62 Nov 2022 #4
I-235 that goes thru Des Moines (IA) was named the McVicar Freeway in the 1960's SharonClark Nov 2022 #9
A stretch of I-10 where I live was named McDermott Freeway in 1995 LeftInTX Nov 2022 #31
yes,,,, KarenS Nov 2022 #5
And, you better get that bamagal62 Nov 2022 #21
Anybody else say 'oydience' (audience)? C_U_L8R Nov 2022 #6
What about the "yu'ns" version of you all? Known in Pittsburgh, I believe Raven123 Nov 2022 #8
funny how different English speaking populations invented their own 2nd person plural pronoun prodigitalson Nov 2022 #10
And then there's "all y'all"... Lars39 Nov 2022 #30
And youse guys. wnylib Nov 2022 #37
Yep. Lars39 Nov 2022 #39
yeah. I almost edited my post prodigitalson Nov 2022 #44
The only time I use all y'all prodigitalson Nov 2022 #45
lol Lars39 Nov 2022 #47
Did you see the map at the link that shows 4 versions - you guys, you, you all, y'all? nt sl8 Nov 2022 #43
hah, no I totally missed it....thanks prodigitalson Nov 2022 #46
It's common among older residents here in southern Appalachia. brer cat Nov 2022 #12
It's yinz Wicked Blue Nov 2022 #18
And both my kids lived in pittsburgh for 4 years. bamagal62 Nov 2022 #19
Squirrel Hill is an upscale neighborhood Wicked Blue Nov 2022 #26
But when in different area, there are yinzers and yunzers. I live about 10 miles south of Pittburgh, debm55 Nov 2022 #28
"Yinz" is old-style Pittsburgh FakeNoose Nov 2022 #35
FakeNoose, People in my area say yunz." I'm a yunzer, You're a yinzer, Wouldn't you want to be a debm55 Nov 2022 #36
People in towns and villages in the wnylib Nov 2022 #38
Kick dalton99a Nov 2022 #11
I can still hear a little bit of Baltimore in Nancy Pelosi's speaking Walleye Nov 2022 #14
People from Boston say fork but it sounds like something else. twodogsbarking Nov 2022 #15
+1. Also, "We don't drink! We don't smoke! Norfolk!" sl8 Nov 2022 #16
Boston MA sanatanadharma Nov 2022 #17
They used to call sub sandwiches 'grinders' there Wicked Blue Nov 2022 #23
As a youth, I could get a ginder after church... sanatanadharma Nov 2022 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Nov 2022 #40
My husband is from Boston, They sometimes add an r to the end of a word. debm55 Nov 2022 #29
I noticed from JFK that they wnylib Nov 2022 #41
Fuggedaboutit RocRizzo55 Nov 2022 #20
My husband grew up on the Lower East Side of Manhattan Wicked Blue Nov 2022 #24
That was fun. LittleGirl Nov 2022 #22
It's not all that different Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #25
I find Cajun accents hard to understand LeftInTX Nov 2022 #32
Boil water or bile watta Higherarky Nov 2022 #33
all I know is ON and OWN are *NOT* supposed to be pronounced the same!! Skittles Nov 2022 #34
When I moved to Cleveland from Erie, PA, wnylib Nov 2022 #42
For years after I moved from Texas to the Northwest. Aristus Nov 2022 #48
Basement or cellar? Or none. Went to the link you provided and it was interesting. Would be debm55 Nov 2022 #49
Some of these were so interesting, funny, and I had No idea!... electric_blue68 Nov 2022 #50
I once heard this explanation: missingthebigdog Nov 2022 #51
No arguing with science. :) nt sl8 Nov 2022 #53
I've noticed Conjuay Nov 2022 #52

no_hypocrisy

(53,405 posts)
1. Despite being a lifelong resident of NJ, I've been told that my "accent"
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 07:04 AM
Nov 2022

resembles Mid-Atlantic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Atlantic_accent

I shrug my shoulders and guess that's the accent I acquired for being associated with highly educated people and I adopted their cadence, their pronunciations, their inflections.

Clash City Rocker

(3,546 posts)
3. Some of those are interesting
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 07:34 AM
Nov 2022

For example, do most people think a highway and a freeway are the same thing? I was taught that if it has stoplights, it’s a highway, and if it doesn’t have stoplights but has off-ramps, it’s a freeway. I didn’t realize that was a controversial opinion.

And how else could you pronounce “Mary,” “merry” or “marry?”

bamagal62

(4,199 posts)
4. I found it interesting
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 07:35 AM
Nov 2022

That the freeway terminology didn’t include interstate. I call roads that have controlled access interstates. I’ve never called any road a freeway. (But maybe that’s due to my age!) In addition I’ve noticed that in some states people refer to particular highways by the proper number such as “Route 230” and other places use the local name of the road such as “Harrisburg Pike”. When I moved to PA, I found it confusing until I figured out it was the same road! Lol!

SharonClark

(10,493 posts)
9. I-235 that goes thru Des Moines (IA) was named the McVicar Freeway in the 1960's
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 08:34 AM
Nov 2022

by the DM City Council. Only old-timers call it that.

KarenS

(5,050 posts)
5. yes,,,,
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 07:37 AM
Nov 2022

I have lived in both Lancaster CA (Lan-caster) and Lancaster OH (Lank-aster)

Now in Arizona, native born Arizonans living in the rural areas have a definite (almost southern) drawl.

on edit:
and my Dad from rural & southern Ohio always worshed his car while my Husband from not so rural and not so Southern Ohio washes his car.

bamagal62

(4,199 posts)
21. And, you better get that
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:59 AM
Nov 2022

Lank-aster (PA) right or they’ll let you know it! I had to train myself! But, now I can’t say it any other way.😂😂😂😂

C_U_L8R

(48,275 posts)
6. Anybody else say 'oydience' (audience)?
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 07:55 AM
Nov 2022

Not sure where I picked that up. Maybe Philly or New York.

prodigitalson

(3,169 posts)
10. funny how different English speaking populations invented their own 2nd person plural pronoun
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 08:49 AM
Nov 2022

since it's the same as the 2nd person 'you' which can be confusing. I'm from Texas so it's y'all (contraction of you all). I would like to see a map of all the different versions. When I worked in New Jersey I heard 'you guys' a lot.

prodigitalson

(3,169 posts)
45. The only time I use all y'all
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:08 PM
Nov 2022

it's proceeded by the command form of a certain obscene verb.

sl8

(16,910 posts)
43. Did you see the map at the link that shows 4 versions - you guys, you, you all, y'all? nt
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:03 PM
Nov 2022

prodigitalson

(3,169 posts)
46. hah, no I totally missed it....thanks
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:09 PM
Nov 2022

lol absolutely nowhere is the actual correct pronoun of 'you' used in casual speech.

brer cat

(27,158 posts)
12. It's common among older residents here in southern Appalachia.
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 08:51 AM
Nov 2022

I cringe every time I hear it.

bamagal62

(4,199 posts)
19. And both my kids lived in pittsburgh for 4 years.
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:57 AM
Nov 2022

And they never heard one person say yinz. But they were mostly in Squirrel Hill or Shadyside. So, maybe it’s mostly said by those that don’t live in the city center??

Wicked Blue

(8,291 posts)
26. Squirrel Hill is an upscale neighborhood
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:12 AM
Nov 2022

So maybe they don't use yinz as much.

My son-in-law, who grew up in Butler County, doesn't say yinz, but told me lots of folks in the Pittsburgh area do use it. I've seen bumper stickers that say "Yinzer".

He and my daughter lived in Pittsburgh for several years and now live in the eastern suburbs.

debm55

(51,639 posts)
28. But when in different area, there are yinzers and yunzers. I live about 10 miles south of Pittburgh,
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:57 AM
Nov 2022

Also towel and tile are pronounced the same. Also add the my hair needs wrashed and car needs wrashed, Instead of I have to wash my hair. In my section of Pittsburgh, it's yunzers but I hear yinzers closer to downtown.

FakeNoose

(38,995 posts)
35. "Yinz" is old-style Pittsburgh
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 04:57 PM
Nov 2022

It's actually "less-educated" Pittsburgh, if you really want to know.

Having lived in Pittsburgh for over 30 years, I can truthfully say that very few Pittsburghers use "yinz" in their regular speech patterns. But we call ourselves "Yinzers" anyway because it distinguishes us from all the rest of Pennsylvania.

It's definitely unique to Pittsburgh and southwestern Pennsylvania.


debm55

(51,639 posts)
36. FakeNoose, People in my area say yunz." I'm a yunzer, You're a yinzer, Wouldn't you want to be a
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 05:03 PM
Nov 2022

Last edited Fri Nov 4, 2022, 05:52 PM - Edit history (2)

yunzer too, Drink Dr.Pepper." Dr. Pepper would be more popular here if they had that jingle.

wnylib

(25,339 posts)
38. People in towns and villages in the
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 08:28 PM
Nov 2022

Pittsburgh area say y'uns. When I was a kid, a family from Somerset moved in across the street from us (Erie), that was the first time I heard it.

I had an aunt who moved to Pittsburgh after she was married and raised her kids there. None of them said it.

sanatanadharma

(4,074 posts)
17. Boston MA
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:45 AM
Nov 2022

I grew up in Massachusetts, about 90 miles from Boston. I knew then that they spoke differently 90 miles from my home.
I left MA and lived in the midwest, planes, southwest, southeast, and northwest.
Fifty years later I went to a HS reunion and to Boston.

In Boston, my wife and I could not understand the English we heard.

Wicked Blue

(8,291 posts)
23. They used to call sub sandwiches 'grinders' there
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:03 AM
Nov 2022

And in Massachusetts a milkshake was (is?) called a frappe, except in Boston, where old-timers call it a 'cabinet.'

I briefly lived in Worcester (1972), worked briefly as a waitress, and had learned the term 'frappe'. But I was stumped when an elderly woman ordered a 'coffee cabinet.'

Thinking she might be slightly senile, I gently told her we didn't sell furniture.

Stunned silence. Then another waitress table informed me that she wanted a coffee frappe.

I grew up in NJ, where it was called a milkshake or shake, except if you were at a Buxton's restaurant where they called it an awful-awful (awful big, awful good.) If you managed to finish 3 of these monsters, you got a 4th one free.

Also in Massachusetts, a store that sold alcohol was called a 'packie', short for package store.

sanatanadharma

(4,074 posts)
27. As a youth, I could get a ginder after church...
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:37 AM
Nov 2022

... but the package stores were closed due to the 'blue laws'.

Response to sanatanadharma (Reply #27)

debm55

(51,639 posts)
29. My husband is from Boston, They sometimes add an r to the end of a word.
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:59 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Sat Nov 5, 2022, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)

or if it ends in a an r already they drop it completely

wnylib

(25,339 posts)
41. I noticed from JFK that they
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 08:35 PM
Nov 2022

add an R where it doesn't belong and leave them out where they do belong.

 

RocRizzo55

(980 posts)
20. Fuggedaboutit
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:57 AM
Nov 2022

Personally, I speak Brooklynese. Old Brooklynese, where we pronounce toilet as "terlet" and oil as "earl." I must be old, because nobody talks like this any more.

Wicked Blue

(8,291 posts)
24. My husband grew up on the Lower East Side of Manhattan
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:05 AM
Nov 2022

and he still "axes" questions instead of asking.

LittleGirl

(8,842 posts)
22. That was fun.
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:00 AM
Nov 2022

Grew up 80 miles from Chicago so I carry those ways of speaking. I’ll never forget living in New Hampshire and someone called the log company employees “wood boogers.” I still chuckle about that. Soda vs pop. Lived in the south long enough to pick up ya’ll. My Mother was from the south and she never completely lost her southern twang even after living in yankee land for over 75 years.

Thanks for sharing. Made my day.

Farmer-Rick

(12,114 posts)
25. It's not all that different
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 10:12 AM
Nov 2022

Most people can still understand each other when they speak...... except for a few areas.

I'm from Maryland/Pennsylvania area. When I went to Newport RI, and invited my parents up to visit, they could not understand a lot of the locals...but I had no problem with understanding them.

But when I went to Georgia, sometimes I could not understand a certain accent. I'm not sure what it was and it only happened maybe twice a year. It was a very thick Southern accent that to my ears sounded like a foreign language but people around me understood it just fine.

It happened at a checkout counter and for the life of me I could not understand the clerk. So, the people around me started interpreting for me, like they were use to it. Anyway, I never found out what that accent was.

Higherarky

(637 posts)
33. Boil water or bile watta
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 03:52 PM
Nov 2022

Last edited Fri Nov 4, 2022, 11:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Laudromat/laudrymat/warshateer/
washateria

Bayou/baya/bie

Didn't/dint/didunt

Et cetera/ek setra

wnylib

(25,339 posts)
42. When I moved to Cleveland from Erie, PA,
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 08:44 PM
Nov 2022

people told me that I pronounced "don" like "dawn." I don't hear the difference.

In South Buffalo and some small towns near there, people used to say "care" for "car" and "hat" for "hot." Very seldom heard there anymore, but we used to tease our Buffalo cousins about it.

Aristus

(71,082 posts)
48. For years after I moved from Texas to the Northwest.
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:35 PM
Nov 2022

people would look at me strangely when I said “Y’all”, and a few would laugh when I said “Howdy”.

My Texas accent has largely deserted me. But I will say “Y’all” until the day I die.

debm55

(51,639 posts)
49. Basement or cellar? Or none. Went to the link you provided and it was interesting. Would be
Fri Nov 4, 2022, 09:40 PM
Nov 2022

interested in getting his book.

electric_blue68

(24,312 posts)
50. Some of these were so interesting, funny, and I had No idea!...
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 01:12 AM
Nov 2022

too tired to point them out right now except for...

I had no idea until about ? 15+ years ago when I heard about it on Public Radio that most people
don't distinguish between
Merry - Mary - Marry !!!

To me - I guess it's somewhat subtle but Distinct.

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)
51. I once heard this explanation:
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 10:07 AM
Nov 2022

Due to an anomaly in the jet stream, the r’s which are dropped in the northeast from words like car (caw) and park (pawk) float up and are redistributed to the south, where we use them in words like warsh (wash).

Conjuay

(2,748 posts)
52. I've noticed
Sat Nov 5, 2022, 11:57 AM
Nov 2022

Georgians referre to a pen as an “ink pen”, and I’ve noticed southerners pronounce “kids” with two syllables- “key-ids”.

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