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Rhiannon12866

(245,411 posts) Tue May 9, 2023, 12:07 AM May 2023

'When I see the crown I think of the pain of my ancestors': Expert on King Charles III coronation

The coronation of King Charles III is facing blowback from parts of the British Commonwealth, especially the Caribbean. We critique this weekend's lavish and what many would call anachronistic ceremony. - The ReidOut - MSNBC - Aired on 05/08/2023.

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'When I see the crown I think of the pain of my ancestors': Expert on King Charles III coronation (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 May 2023 OP

In their official portraits, he looks like his grandmother, she like a mismatched chess piece . . . Journeyman May 2023 #1

I caught part of the anachronistic coronation ceremony and it was pretty surreal Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #2

They'll certainly support who & what they will . . . Journeyman May 2023 #3

I remember staying up and watching Diana's wedding, she seemed pretty ideal to me Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #4

I hear ya, but when I see the White House, I think of the MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE pain of my ancestors AllTooEasy May 2023 #5

Journeyman

(15,397 posts)

1. In their official portraits, he looks like his grandmother, she like a mismatched chess piece . . .

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2023, 01:12 AM

May 2023

and so they stroll through history, representing their "subjects," never officially recognizing how anachronistic they are, nor what their costume party lives symbolize for far more people than those who took his silly personal pledge.

Rhiannon12866

(245,411 posts)

2. I caught part of the anachronistic coronation ceremony and it was pretty surreal

Reply to Journeyman (Reply #1)

Tue May 9, 2023, 01:18 AM

May 2023

But it's up to the British who appear to support them, though I thought their loyalty was with Diana.

Journeyman

(15,397 posts)

3. They'll certainly support who & what they will . . .

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #2)

Tue May 9, 2023, 01:35 AM

May 2023

and I, steeped in American history, with attitudes flavored by my Irish roots, will hold my contempt for the crown as an open book.

And yeah, things were a little different when "Lady" Di was hanging around. I remember the wedding, when we Irish stood shoulder to shoulder and shouted in unison at the wedding carriage a joyous chorus:

"Up Chuck and Di! Up Chuck and Di!"

Rhiannon12866

(245,411 posts)

4. I remember staying up and watching Diana's wedding, she seemed pretty ideal to me

Reply to Journeyman (Reply #3)

Tue May 9, 2023, 01:40 AM

May 2023

And I have Irish roots as well, my paternal great grandparents emigrated from Ireland, she as a young girl with her family and he as a young man. And I've visited Ireland twice, beautiful country and the nicest people.

AllTooEasy

(1,261 posts)

5. I hear ya, but when I see the White House, I think of the MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE pain of my ancestors

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue May 9, 2023, 03:23 AM

May 2023

On 25 March 1807, King George III signed into law the Act for the Abolition of the Slave Trade, banning slave trading within the British Empire. After that, twelve of our fucking presidents, including Thomas Jefferson, supported slavery or gave lip-service to abolishing it. Twelve, and it still took +250k dead Southerners to make that happen in the 1860s.

(Note: Full emancipation within the British Empire wasn't effectively achieved until 1838)

Yeah the crown brought the pain, but the our leaders unnecessarily extended it.

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