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ItsjustMe

(11,971 posts)
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:03 PM Feb 2022

Drives Cop Car Drunk To A Gun Range, Fraternal Order Of Police Defend His Actions

Jacksonville cop drives his department issued patrol car to a gun range for work training 4 hours after drinking a fifth of vodka. He's so drunk that fellow officers immediately remove his gun from him. When he takes a breathalyzer 3 hours later, he is still 4 times the legal limit to drive. He is fired, but a civil servant review board hears arguments from a fraternal order of police lawyer, who claims that firing officer Nicholas Gifford was unfair, because other officers had gotten DUI while off duty in their person cars, and they were not fired, so officer Gifford being ON DUTY and in his patrol car is no different. The board agreed and rehired the danger to society.

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Drives Cop Car Drunk To A Gun Range, Fraternal Order Of Police Defend His Actions (Original Post) ItsjustMe Feb 2022 OP
Whats next the claim that his shooting was improved. Historic NY Feb 2022 #1
Ahem. 'civil servant review board ..' stopdiggin Feb 2022 #4
I don't agree off duty drunk driving cops should be automatically reinstated so Dustlawyer Feb 2022 #2
It's Florida, man. Someone's gonna wind up dead. ancianita Feb 2022 #3
It's OK to commit a lot of crimes if you're not a criminal IronLionZion Feb 2022 #5
A few years ago in a South Michigan town, a local multigraincracker Feb 2022 #6
of course llashram Feb 2022 #7
A LAWSUIT WAITING TO HAPPEN Jimvanhise Feb 2022 #8
Where was This? Ameri Canadian Feb 2022 #9

Historic NY

(39,353 posts)
1. Whats next the claim that his shooting was improved.
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:09 PM
Feb 2022

Locally there was off duty officer that had DUI's and accidents after it was kept on the hush and he was sent for treatment he had another. He was immediately fired.

Another had a serious accident, hitting the daughter of a retired officer. Where was he coming from, a celebration at a bar with his union. They had the nerve to pay him when he was suspended. Eventually he was convicted and went to prison, the only way this stops is to go after the unions for sanctioning the conduct. This guy is a stone-cold alcoholic. Rehiring him should make all the complicit parties legally responsible.

stopdiggin

(14,498 posts)
4. Ahem. 'civil servant review board ..'
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:33 PM
Feb 2022

had a slam dunk case in front of them. (including testimony from fellow officers) Perhaps we should be asking them .. ?

Dustlawyer

(10,532 posts)
2. I don't agree off duty drunk driving cops should be automatically reinstated so
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:13 PM
Feb 2022

having one on duty in a police car is definitely a bridge too far! This man was going to shoot guns heavily intoxicated. This is a whole other level of culpability.

multigraincracker

(36,503 posts)
6. A few years ago in a South Michigan town, a local
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 12:57 PM
Feb 2022

cop pulled over an off duty cop for drunk driving. As a "Professional Courtesy” he drove the drunk cop home instead of a ticket or arrest.
The drunk cop had his wife drive him back to get his car. As luck would have it, he then drove it into a ditch and they both got busted. Can't remember what happen to them, but it did make the local paper.

Jimvanhise

(532 posts)
8. A LAWSUIT WAITING TO HAPPEN
Sat Feb 5, 2022, 04:58 PM
Feb 2022

It a drunk police officer in his city patrol car got into an accident and damaged property or injured someone, the city would be sued, and the Fraternal Order of Police defends that? Does the officer at least have to attend rehab for his addiction?

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