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Dulcinea

(9,275 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 04:45 AM Wednesday

Speaker Johnson said he'd swear in new House Democrat 'as soon as she wants.' Now Republicans are backtracking

(CNN) Speaker Mike Johnson is not planning to allow Democrats’ newest congresswoman-elect to be sworn-in until her party agrees to end the government shutdown, despite telling CNN earlier Tuesday that he would swear her in “as soon as she wants.”

“We will swear in Rep.-Elect [Adelita] Grijalva as soon as the House returns to session when Chuck Schumer, Mark Kelly and Ruben Gallego decide to open up the government,” a leadership aide said Tuesday.

The move amounts to an extraordinary power play to deny a sitting member a seat.

While the leadership aide contended “it’s a customary practice in the House to swear in members when the chamber is in legislative session,” Johnson swore in Florida GOP Reps. Jimmy Patronis and Randy Fine during a pro forma session earlier this year.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/07/politics/johnson-adelita-grijalva-swearing-in

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Speaker Johnson said he'd swear in new House Democrat 'as soon as she wants.' Now Republicans are backtracking (Original Post) Dulcinea Wednesday OP
First, words are cheap. no_hypocrisy Wednesday #1
IOKIYAR maxsolomon Wednesday #21
And the all-encompassing "NO FAIR REMEMBERING AT LEAST 10 MINUTES AGO" Montauk6 Wednesday #22
The basic attitude is try and stop us. maxsolomon Wednesday #23
And this so-called "Purple Revolution"... Montauk6 Wednesday #24
it's not how this shit is supposed to work Skittles Wednesday #2
What Johnson is doing is unconstitutional. SunSeeker Wednesday #3
"What Johnson is doing is unconstitutional." Grindr Mike doesn't care. Botany Wednesday #4
I don't understand why Arizona can't certify her election sooner BComplex Wednesday #12
Only the US House Speaker can swear in a new member SCantiGOP Wednesday #16
The Arizona Secretary of State is a Democrat, so I'm pretty sure if he could certify her sooner he would. SunSeeker Wednesday #19
He's a pathological liar The Wizard Wednesday #5
the house will never go back into session... Javaman Wednesday #6
Grindr Mike wolfie001 Wednesday #7
Little Mike's just trying to please his true Lord and Savior: donald fucking trump. (nt) Paladin Wednesday #8
They should get someone else to swear her in. nt Trueblue Texan Wednesday #9
Well we have 3 SCOTUS who can Historic NY Wednesday #13
I didn't know that. Maybe it is something we all need to make phone calls about Maraya1969 Wednesday #28
Fine. SHe wants. Now. DFW Wednesday #10
She can get a SCOTUS to swear her in Historic NY Wednesday #11
From the same people who changed the rules for Merrick Garland... Grins Wednesday #14
"Law & Order" is a TV show to the Repubs. nt Dulcinea Wednesday #18
This is exactly what they are going to do in January 2027 when they lose the house jgmiller Wednesday #15
Deny and delay... BattleRow Wednesday #20
Do your fucking job Johnson Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Wednesday #17
Why does swearing in matter? SpankMe Wednesday #25
It was a dumb stunt that gained them nothing. C_U_L8R Wednesday #26
personally keroro gunsou Wednesday #27
Can't stop wankin' around. calimary Wednesday #29
It should be made clear to the GQP leadership moniss Thursday #30

no_hypocrisy

(53,374 posts)
1. First, words are cheap.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:00 AM
Wednesday

Second, Rep.-Elect [Adelita] Grijalva is NOT a bargaining chip.

Third, hypocrisy. Johnson swore in Florida GOP Reps. Jimmy Patronis and Randy Fine during a pro forma session earlier this year.

maxsolomon

(37,538 posts)
21. IOKIYAR
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 04:57 PM
Wednesday

Remember this fundamental rule: It's OK If You're A Republican. Their situational reasoning doesn't require consistency.

maxsolomon

(37,538 posts)
23. The basic attitude is try and stop us.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:12 PM
Wednesday

Just like denying Obama a SCOTUS pick. Dems couldn't force Repukes to do the right thing, and our weak ass Constitution relies on those in power acting in good faith.

The GOP ran over good faith with a locomotive.

Montauk6

(9,267 posts)
24. And this so-called "Purple Revolution"...
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:16 PM
Wednesday

That locomotive had SOME MAGAts falling off and because they got muddied up they want us to forget how they fired up that train to begin with.

If that makes any sense, I sometimes experience self-bog, forgive me.

Skittles

(168,044 posts)
2. it's not how this shit is supposed to work
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:12 AM
Wednesday

alas, we seem to be saying that about EVERYTHING, every fucking DAY

SunSeeker

(56,904 posts)
3. What Johnson is doing is unconstitutional.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:21 AM
Wednesday

As Grijalva’s fellow Arizona Democrat, Rep. Greg Stanton, told Johnson in a Sept. 30 letter, Johnson’s blocking of Grijalva’s swearing-in is “depriving more than 800,000 Arizonans of their rightful voice in Congress,” which Stanton said is “a direct violation of both the Constitution’s guarantee of representation and the House’s duty to respect the will of the voters.”

Also, in Powell v. McCormack (1969) 395 U.S. 486, the Supreme Court ruled that the House cannot refuse to seat a member-elect who meets constitutional requirements and whose election is certified. The official certified results from Grijalva's election will be available October 14. https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/rep-elect-adelita-grijalva-not-yet-sworn-in-amid-government-shutdown

If Johnson does not certify her after October 14, she should sue Johnson to compel her swearing in, citing Powell v. McCormack .

Botany

(75,523 posts)
4. "What Johnson is doing is unconstitutional." Grindr Mike doesn't care.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:04 AM
Wednesday

However having free and fair elections* is provided for under the U.S. Constitution but these shits
are totally lawless people who see their #1 job is to support America’s Fascist State and protect its
Dictator, Donald J. Trump.

Hell, they are sending the U.S. Military and ICE agents into cities to stop people from using their
1st Amendment protected right to free speech as America’s is murdering people by blowing up
boats in international waters.

BTW nice post.

* https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the



BComplex

(9,616 posts)
12. I don't understand why Arizona can't certify her election sooner
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:30 AM
Wednesday

Is there some Arizona constitutional reason that there is such a delay?

SunSeeker

(56,904 posts)
19. The Arizona Secretary of State is a Democrat, so I'm pretty sure if he could certify her sooner he would.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 02:59 PM
Wednesday

The Wizard

(13,426 posts)
5. He's a pathological liar
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:07 AM
Wednesday

and it's about time the media hold Johnson and the Republican cartel to task for their bad habit.

Javaman

(64,637 posts)
6. the house will never go back into session...
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:16 AM
Wednesday

at least not in a reasonable time.

either the orange asshole drops dead or something else extraordinary happens around the only reasons they will convene again.

as long as they are out, the Epstein files won't be released, and that above all is what is controlling everything.

Paladin

(31,772 posts)
8. Little Mike's just trying to please his true Lord and Savior: donald fucking trump. (nt)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:46 AM
Wednesday

DFW

(59,135 posts)
10. Fine. SHe wants. Now.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:13 AM
Wednesday

Is your word good, or is it as phony as your Grecian Formula 16 hair dye?

Historic NY

(39,347 posts)
11. She can get a SCOTUS to swear her in
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:24 AM
Wednesday

WTF not do that instead of making a big production of not being sworn . Do it live on the TV. Mike Johnson would shit

Grins

(8,951 posts)
14. From the same people who changed the rules for Merrick Garland...
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:33 AM
Wednesday

Democrats follow the rules and norms.

"Law n' Order" Republicans just do it anyhow.

jgmiller

(653 posts)
15. This is exactly what they are going to do in January 2027 when they lose the house
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:39 AM
Wednesday

They don't need to fix the election or try to stop the election. They will simply say "There was massive fraud in CA, NY, IL, etc and we can't swear in these people until we investigate." They are proving over and over again it's much easier to ignore the law with a bad excuse than to go to the trouble of rigging elections or declaring martial law.

SpankMe

(3,610 posts)
25. Why does swearing in matter?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:39 PM
Wednesday

I just looked it up - Rep Grijalva's election was certified by the AZ SoS last year. She's the duly elected rep.

The Dems should frame the swearing in as a mere ceremonial formality and start including her in the daily routine.

I imagine Johnson can hold her back from being put in the computers for the vote-tabulating machines, email and other logistics. Maybe he can even deny her office space or a physical seat in the chamber or credentials for accessing the Capitol building itself until she's sworn in.

But, Dems should be assholes about it and administratively insert Grijalva into any process they can.

If Repubs were in this position, they'd jut bypass swearing in and carry on as normal. We should do the same to the greatest extent possible.

C_U_L8R

(48,263 posts)
26. It was a dumb stunt that gained them nothing.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:48 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:50 PM - Edit history (1)

All they seem to have are dumb stunts.

moniss

(8,162 posts)
30. It should be made clear to the GQP leadership
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 02:36 AM
Thursday

in both chambers that unless she is sworn in immediately that when we regain control we will make it take as long as nearly an entire Congressional term for swearing in their people.

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