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lees1975

(5,465 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:43 PM Sunday

How many Americans can't connect Trump's fascist National Socialists statements because they can't recognize fascist

National Socialism?

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/10/how-many-american-generations-cant.html

The answer to that question is far too many.

Early in his first campaign for President, Trump said "I could shoot someone standing in the middle of Fifth avenue and I wouldn't lose any voters." That's one of the few truths he's uttered since that moment. People are appallingly ignorant of this man's approach to politics. Whether he's a puppet being fed by a fascist elements somewhere else, who have figured out how easily Trump is manipulated by flattery, or money offers, the fact that he has been so openly anti-American, anti-Patriotic, anti-Democracy, anti-Constitution in his public speeches, which get cheers from his rally-goers, is deadly serious.

He's been the single most divisive politician in modern American history, and equally as bad as the slavery advocates. He is using tools available to him, found in the corners and crannies of various conservative interests, such as far right wing Evangelicalism, primarily the Charismatic and Pentecostal branches of it that are hard liners when it comes to their belief that God has set them aside, chosen them and ordained them to bring righteousness back to America, just like he once did for the ancient Jews, and the ongoing theme of white supremacy, which not only hasn't been eliminated from American ideology by education, but is being radicalized in right wing political alliances that now make up most of the Republican party.

The belief that what happened in Germany in the twelve nightmare years of National Socialist rule, which stretched the rules of the existing, fledgling democratic government to seize power, could not happen in the United States is a myth. We have already elected this ideology to the Presidency once, and were extremely lucky in the fact that it failed when it attacked the Constitution, and the legal guardrails held. But in the aftermath, we discovered there were members of Congress in both chambers who were planning on cooperating to help Trump bring it down, had there been any signs of weakness or openings to do so.


We are about to see if our nation's society and culture is capable of saving itself from a fascist dictatorship that a significant portion of the electorate is not capable of recognizing. It's not been a failure of just the government, or only the justice department. Our educational system has failed to produce the kind of informed electorate which its founders and visionaries created and established it to do. It has declined for decades, for which there is more than ample evidence to prove, and seems incapable of producing critical thinkers, especially when it comes to civics, politics and the social order.

The fact that we now have a convicted felon, rapist, and indicted insurrectionist on the ballot with polling numbers that would be frightening enough if they were barely in the double digits, is evidence of the failure of multiple cultural and social guardrails, and it also tells our enemies exactly how and where we are vulnerable.

Our first priority is winning this election, at all levels.
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How many Americans can't connect Trump's fascist National Socialists statements because they can't recognize fascist (Original Post) lees1975 Sunday OP
At least 30MM voters. Another 15MM see this as a bonus. OAITW r.2.0 Sunday #1
Yes, Democracy does make electing fascism a possibility. lees1975 Sunday #2
They just know what they like. And they like hate. dchill Sunday #3
Many MAGA folks believe the Nazis were Socialists. raging moderate Sunday #4
That's a whole different kind of socialism. lees1975 Sunday #5
The intentional decline of the education system esp teaching civics and govt is lethal. appalachiablue Sunday #6
Fascist/Fascism is a term/label I rarely hear used in the M$M. GoodRaisin Monday #7

lees1975

(5,465 posts)
2. Yes, Democracy does make electing fascism a possibility.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:58 PM
Sunday

Anyone who thinks the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 is a "good thing" is a fascist.

raging moderate

(4,479 posts)
4. Many MAGA folks believe the Nazis were Socialists.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:33 PM
Sunday

They think that because the German word for Socialist was part of the official name of the Nazi party. I have tried to explain the historical facts to several, but they do not want to learn anything about it.

lees1975

(5,465 posts)
5. That's a whole different kind of socialism.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:43 PM
Sunday

And you're right, they don't want to learn about it. Nor do they have the inclination or motivation to see that what they want to label as "socialism" and slap on Democrats is not socialism.

appalachiablue

(42,631 posts)
6. The intentional decline of the education system esp teaching civics and govt is lethal.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 11:24 PM
Sunday

Our educational system has failed to produce the kind of informed electorate which its founders and visionaries created and established it to do.

It has declined for decades, for which there is more than ample evidence to prove, and seems incapable of producing critical thinkers, especially when it comes to civics, politics and the social order.

GoodRaisin

(9,492 posts)
7. Fascist/Fascism is a term/label I rarely hear used in the M$M.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 02:46 PM
Monday

Just an observation. Even though it’s picked up a little more lately now that it has reached our doorstep.

When it should have been screamed from the mountain tops.

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