Trump flips on his Evangelical constituency, so do they still lose their credibility by continuing to support him?

[lees1975]

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/10/do-evangelical-voters-have-real.html

The usual response of Evangelicals to every single thing Trump does that flies in the face of their religious beliefs and practice, including his complete denial of ever having need for a conversion experience from the perspective by which they define conversion, and his immoral, depraved, licentious, lifestyle, that includes pathological lying and utter dishonesty, is to ignore it, deny he said it or that it happened, and then, in the face of a mountain of evidence proving it, find some way to twist an obscure passage from the Old Testament out of context to excuse it.

But Trump's new found support for a woman's right to choose to have an abortion, which he put forth in his debate with Vice-President Harris, and has since underlined and clarified, which is the reason most Evangelicals have held their nose and voted for him the past two times, or so some of their self-appointed leaders claim, is now diametrically opposed to the Evangelical view.

The response from the political religious right so far has been silence. They're either coming up with some kind of convoluted version of an explanation of why Trump doesn't really mean what he says and that what he says isn't really support for a woman's right to choose. What Trump has expressed, as loudly and with as much clarity as anything he has expressed over the past year and a half, is that he is 100% in favor of the voters in each state deciding whether abortion can be legal, safe, and readily available in their state.

"It's giving it to the states," he said during the debate, "Everyone wanted this to go to the states, and that's what I did by getting Roe overturned," were his exact words. He even acknowledged that the states which have voted on this so far, overwhelmingly in favor of a woman's right to choose, all very conservative politically, might indicate that abortion would be legal in all 50 states, if that's the way the voters want it. He seems to be perfectly OK with that.

This is a complete betrayal of his right wing, conservative, white, Evangelical constituency who has believed implicitly in both his opposition to abortion rights, and his personal Christian conversion experience. They've been duped on both things.

[Walleye]

1. You think that these people would get tired of trumpsplaining

I feel like they’re in some sort of hypnotic trance when they rationalize their support for this antichrist

[NoRethugFriends]

2. Do they lose their credibility? Exactly what credibility is that?

[lees1975]

3. Rhetorical question.

When they became a political faction by letting Falwell, Robertson, and Franklin Graham lead them to seek their "answers to prayer" via secular politics, so they could get what they wanted instead of waiting for God to answer, they lost their credibility, because they were doing something that the Christian gospel warned against them doing. Even before that, though, this branch of the Christian church had lost a lot of credibility because its leaders were individuals who had learned how to get rich off exploiting their followers and sucking the life and money out of churches for their own lavish lifestyles and fortunes. Their literalist reading and interpretation of the Bible feeds folk-religion and mysticism, leading people away from the core principles and values of the Christian gospel.

This is like having a military commander lead an army to the point of no return on the battlefield, and then telling the soldiers he led that he's going over to the other side because he might get some of their support the other way.

[Wiz Imp]

5. Exactly

My first reaction when I saw the headline was what credibility? This is a group who claims that their "Christianity" is the most important aspect to their lives. Yet, somehow their version of Christianity has absolutely no connection with the teachings of Christ himself. Everything they support runs counter to what Jesus preached in the Bible.

[Skittles]

8. I know, right?

their entire business model is delusion

[Beachnutt]

4. Look at this crap

[50 Shades Of Blue]

6. Evangelicals know Trump is simply lying for Jesus and will absolutely do their bidding if he gets elected.

[Scrivener7]

7. This. Absolutely this is what they're doing.

[lees1975]

9. That's kind of a rock and a hard place for them.

If they think he will still push for a national abortion ban as President, then they're endorsing duplicity and lying, which goes against their principles and makes them look bad. If they don't push back against this, it looks like they aren't pro-life, or that they're just his ignorant dupes.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

10. "Lying for Jesus" is totally a thing for them, though. The ends justify the means. Whatever it takes to outlaw abortion.

[lees1975]

11. I wish we had enough of a reliable media that this would really create monstrous pressure on them to deny Trump

as hard as that might be. There are, apparently, some of the more extreme elements who are, on social media, expressing their opinion about Trump's shift, angry but not knowing who to be angry with.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

12. So do I! Articles like this one are worthless. It doesn't take much investigation into fundievangelical thinking to

realize what's really going on between them and Trump. They will NEVER abandon him because they know he's lying for them. But the MSM can't be bothered to do more than keep repeating this superficial crap!