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teach1st

(5,994 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:34 PM Oct 2022

Those math and reading scores were horrible, but beware of the political spin

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Those math and reading scores were horrible, but beware of the political spin
Chattanooga Times Free Press, 10/30/2022, by Michael Hiltzik, LA Times

Comparing Florida NAEP scores (97% in person) to California NAEP scores (71% virtual, 22% hybrid)

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For example, here's Florida's Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, a sworn opponent of anti-pandemic public health measures, crowing on Twitter that his state's NAEP results "prove that we made the right decision " to keep schools open.
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But on the whole, California did better than Florida. In eighth-grade reading, California showed no change since 2019, but Florida students' proficiency declined by four percentage points.

Florida's results were one percentage point worse than California's in fourth- and eighth-grade math. California fourth-graders' reading scores declined by two points, and Florida stayed level.

The overall averages showed California students losing five percentage points since 2019 in math, while Florida students lost six points. In reading, California students lost one point and Florida's lost two.
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https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2022/oct/30/opinion-those-math-and-reading-scores-were/
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SheltieLover

(74,579 posts)
1. No concern for cognitive impairment due to school shootings, hu?
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:42 PM
Oct 2022

I call bs!

The best brain wave state for learning is alpha, a relaxed state of awareness.

Wth could relax in a school these days?

Kids are resilient. I don't believe online learning was a big problem.

And, if it was, tfg is to blame!

teach1st

(5,994 posts)
2. In the spring of 2020, online learning was a big problem
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:48 PM
Oct 2022

My Florida school shut down after March, and there was very little support for teachers suddenly teaching virtual. I think we had a less than two weeks to prepare. I retired after that school year, and the schools reopened in the fall of 2020.

The opinion piece mentions California including remediation, which may have helped.

SheltieLover

(74,579 posts)
4. They need to look at the effects of attempting to learn in a dangerous environ.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:50 PM
Oct 2022

Doesn't work so well.

SWBTATTReg

(25,799 posts)
3. Kids need to realize that a lot of computer programming (if that's their choice as a life occupation
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:50 PM
Oct 2022

requires the use of algorithms which oftentimes, are totally new (specific to the code being designed/written), so a math background is essential. I developed and used quite a few algorithms in my day, and the math to do this was nice to have as a background...it wasn't my major, but I had a pretty good background in math to help in the required coding.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
5. Red States have FAUX Knews in the background. I tell you, it lowers IQ scores.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 10:13 PM
Oct 2022

STUDY: Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cognitive-ability-and-vulnerability-to-fake-news/

Meanwhile, other research is shedding light on the mechanisms underlying the effects of misinformation. Repeating a false claim increases its believability, giving it an air of what Stephen Colbert famously called “truthiness.” Known as the illusion of truth effect, this phenomenon was first demonstrated in the laboratory by Hasher and her colleagues. On each of three days, subjects listened to plausible-sounding statements and rated each on whether they thought it was true. Half of the statements were in fact true, such as Australia is approximately equal in area to the continental United States, whereas the other half were false, such as Zachary Taylor was the first president to die in office (it was William Henry Harrison). Some of the statements were repeated across days, whereas others were presented only once. The results showed that the average truth rating increased from day to day for the repeated statements, but remained constant for the non-repeated statements, indicating that subjects mistook familiarity for verity.

More recent research reveals that even knowledge of the truth doesn’t necessarily protect against the illusion of truth. In a 2015 study published in the Journal of Experimental Psychology: General, Lisa Fazio and her colleagues asked subjects to rate a set of statements on how interesting they found them. Following Hasher and colleagues’ procedure, some of the statements were true, whereas others were false. The subjects then rated a second set of statements for truthfulness on a six-point scale, from definitely false to definitely true. Some of the statements were repeated from the first set, whereas others were new. Finally, the subjects took a knowledge test that included questions based on the statements. The results revealed that repetition increased the subjects’ perception of the truthfulness of false statements, even for statements they knew to be false. For example, even if a subject correctly answered Pacific Ocean to the question What is the largest ocean on Earth? on the knowledge test, they still tended to give the false statement The Atlantic Ocean is the largest ocean on Earth a higher truth rating if it was repeated. When a claim was made to feel familiar through repetition, subjects neglected to consult their own knowledge base in rating the claim’s truthfulness.





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