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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(129,759 posts)
Sat May 28, 2022, 07:51 PM May 2022

Christianity seeks mercy, not power. A true Christian nation is not about nationalism

The Rev. Joseph Farnes, The Idaho Statesman

In what way is America a Christian nation?

Seriously, I’m asking.

Christian nationalism has been on the rise again. Christian nationalism is a conflation of Christianity and nationalism masquerading as patriotism. It assumes that true Americans must be Christian, and Christianity (or what passes as Christianity) should be enshrined in law.

Christian nationalism emerges out of fear that, without special protection, this narrow Christianity will lose its grip on culture and politics and wither away. Certain Christians in the United States preach this message, and they find comrades in Russia’s Orthodox Church, whose patriarch supported the invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/christianity-seeks-mercy-not-power-a-true-christian-nation-is-not-about-nationalism/ar-AAXP2ms
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Christianity seeks mercy, not power. A true Christian nation is not about nationalism (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2022 OP
The Christo-Nazis have co-opted Jesus for their purposes. no_hypocrisy May 2022 #1
They have, yes. But many other Christians wnylib May 2022 #3
Politics and religion use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 May 2022 #6
They always have. no_hypocrisy May 2022 #7
In a fake way? czarjak May 2022 #2
People need to start calling out these religious nuts for what they are ... relayerbob May 2022 #4
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 May 2022 #5
No, they practice the exact opposite of Christianity relayerbob May 2022 #8
Trump has tried to change Christian doctrine and theology and throw out what he doesn't like lees1975 May 2022 #10
There is no Christian theology that provides for the conversion of nations or countries lees1975 May 2022 #9
"Render unto Ceaser that which is Ceaser's" world wide wally May 2022 #11
Hey, how can you lose with god always on your side? GoldandSilver May 2022 #12

wnylib

(25,339 posts)
3. They have, yes. But many other Christians
Sat May 28, 2022, 08:12 PM
May 2022

have not. Many Christians agree with the Episcopal priest quoted in the OP.

relayerbob

(7,287 posts)
4. People need to start calling out these religious nuts for what they are ...
Sat May 28, 2022, 08:16 PM
May 2022

Anti-Christians. That's who they follow.

relayerbob

(7,287 posts)
8. No, they practice the exact opposite of Christianity
Sun May 29, 2022, 12:20 AM
May 2022

And worship false prophets. I'll stick with Anti-Christians.

There are lots of "political Christians", Jimmy Carter, for example, that actually attempt to use the tenets of their faith to help others. These folks do not.

lees1975

(6,794 posts)
10. Trump has tried to change Christian doctrine and theology and throw out what he doesn't like
Sun May 29, 2022, 12:36 AM
May 2022

lees1975

(6,794 posts)
9. There is no Christian theology that provides for the conversion of nations or countries
Sun May 29, 2022, 12:34 AM
May 2022

Christianity is a faith that comes about as the result of individual conversion. There is no such thing as collective conversion.

If you really want to see what a "Christian nation" would look like, which would be a country in which the majority of its people had converted to Christianity and determined to live by Christian principles, look at the first century Christian church in Jerusalem as described in the first few chapters of the book of Acts. They lived communally, holding everything of material wealth in common, and distributed it as it was needed. Becoming a member of the community was based solely on conversion to Christianity, not on race or nationality or language spoken. And they governed themselves congregationally, when an issue arose or a question that would affect the whole community came up, they gathered together and made the decision as a body by consensus (Acts 4:32-37; Acts 6:1-6; Acts 15:22-35).

Christian faith dies when it is imposed. It becomes tyrannical and self-serving. The history of the church as an agent of and institution of the state is anti-Christian, adopting doctrinal standards that were contrary to the teachings of Christ and the apostles, distortions and impositions by force. The entire history of the persecution of Christians in western civilization is a persecution of true believers by an institutional, state church bent on enforcing conformity. That's exactly what white Christian nationalism does. Look at how Native Americans were treated in this country, all in the name of "conversion" but really in the name of a philosophy of Christian nationalism known as "Anglo-Israelism", the idea that God had "chosen" white people and given them a fresh start on a new continent in order to re-establish his kingdom on earth. That's not a Christianity based on any Biblical theology or doctrine.

GoldandSilver

(186 posts)
12. Hey, how can you lose with god always on your side?
Sun May 29, 2022, 08:03 PM
May 2022

Christian nationalism is just another way to say fascism.

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