Report to shed light on what really took place when FBI shot Ibragim Todashev
Source: Guardian
The FBI’s story, doled out through anonymous leaks, changed several times in the weeks that followed. First, Todashev, who had voluntarily endured hours of questioning, lunged at the FBI agent with a knife, or even a sword. Then it was a length of pipe. Other accounts had him knocking over a table. At least one account held that Todashev was unarmed. The version that currently stands is that Todashev wielded a metal pole – or, perhaps, a broomstick.
Little is known about that mysterious pole-slash-broomstick: its heft, its dimensions, its use. Yet it is likely to be a major difference between vindication and damnation of the FBI’s handling of the case. A Florida prosecutor examining the case is expected to publish the results of an long-awaited investigation into Todashev’s death on Tuesday morning.
Unknowns accumulate in the Todashev shooting. Two Florida detectives reportedly aided the FBI interrogation, and their role during the shooting remains unclear. Florida’s autopsy report, available since July, was barred from release by the FBI. The bureau’s months of silence over the case have compounded the questions it faces.
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Revealing what Todashev held in his hands on the last night of his life won’t answer all the questions posed by his death. Nor will it tell the full story behind the Boston Marathon attacks, the last best chance for which now comes from the Dzhokhar Tsarnaev trial scheduled for November. But there’s no closure to a disturbing episode for the FBI without a thorough reckoning with what happened in that Orlando apartment.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/24/fbi-agent-ibragim-todashev-boston-marathon-report
There's already an independent investigation going on, with interesting witnesses:
But an exclusive interview last week by this journalist of Deputy Chief Medical Examiner Gary Utz, who personally conducted the Todashev autopsy, confirms that Todashev was shot seven times by FBI bullets, four times in the torso, two times in the left arm (he was right-handed), and once in the top of the head, slightly towards the back of the head. A significant bruise and contusion over the cheekbone showed he also had been “forcefully struck” on the left side of the head, in Utz’s words — a point that had never been mentioned by the FBI.
Bruising does not occur to a significant extent once a person is dead — especially if the heart has been destroyed by bullets and there has been significant loss of blood — since there is no blood pressure to push blood out of damaged blood vessels into surrounding tissue. This means it is likely the blow suffered by Todashev came before he was shot.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/24/dark-questions-about-a-deadly-fbi-interrogation-in-orlando/
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dmosh42
(2,217 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Do you not realize how long 3 gallons of white-out takes to dry?
That was a joke, though some may not recognize it.
For you of the younger persuasion, we used to have these things called typewriters, a sort of mechanical machine that imitated the word processor you use now. When one wrote something unintended such that it incriminated another officer by mistake, say, or if someone wrote the truth and wasn't supposed to, or, if we actually typed a letter by mistake, we had to literally paint the letters out with this stuff, which smelled awful, would smear, and sometimes wouldn't cover well.
It took forever to dry. And if you had to paint over multiple statements that you wanted gotten rid of, until you got them just right and matched up with all the facts you were creating for your report that was going to the public, why, it could take a long, long time.
You didn't miss anything.
Why these reports are taking so long I have no idea. They don't use whiteout any longer.
eggplant
(4,114 posts)
FailureToCommunicate
(14,568 posts)Interesting additional details, and questions, from The Boston Globe:
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/02/25/waltham-murders-boston-marathon/
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Which is apparently SOP and thus neither remarkable nor criminal.
SamKnause
(14,547 posts)End of report.
150 agents cleared out of 150 shootings.
Why would anyone expect this report to be any different ?
Eugene
(66,506 posts)Source: ABC News
March 25, 2014
By MIKE LEVINE and LEE FERRAN
A Florida state prosecutor and the Justice Department both announced today that they will not bring charges against an FBI agent involved in the controversial shooting of a man tied to one of the alleged Boston Marathon bombers.
Ibragim Todashev was killed in Orlando last May during an interview with an FBI and other law enforcement officials, who were looking into a connection between Todashev, alleged Boston bomber Tamerlane Tsarnaev and an unsolved triple murder in Massachusetts two years earlier.
According to the findings Florida State Attorney Jeffrey Ashton disclosed today, the actions of the FBI “were justified in self-defense and in defense of another.”
After more than four hours of questioning at Todashev’s home on May 22, 2013, law enforcement officials had Todashev sit down to pen a written statement , after which he expected to be arrested, Ashton said in a letter to FBI director James Comey explaining his decision. Other investigative documents released today include a report that says Todashev had admitted he was “involved” in the 2011 triple murder.
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Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/criminal-charges-fbi-agent-deadly-boston-bombing-linked/story?id=23049206
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)why the guy would agree to having multiple FBI interviews in his own home, without and attorney presents, and then zerg rush a couple of experts in sidearm proficiency with a melee weapon...
I think some DUer mention the possibility of drugs or roid rage in the last thread -- Was there any definitive word on that?