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Mr. Sparkle

(3,650 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:43 PM Yesterday

"Needs to get the hell out": House Dems fume at Schumer

Source: Axios

House Democrats found themselves in the familiar position this week of seething at Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) for negotiating a deal with Republicans to keep the government funded.

While his caucus remains behind him, Schumer is becoming persona non grata for much of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. "I'm gonna continue to tell you that Schumer needs to get the hell out over and over and over until he does," Rep. Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.) told Axios. "He continues to demonstrate to us that he can't meet the moment," she added.Another House Democrat, speaking on the condition of anonymity to offer insights into private conversations among lawmakers, told Axios: "The main feeling among members is a lack of trust in his strength and ability to strike a hard bargain."

The House voted Tuesday to pass an appropriations package that funds the Departments of Defense, Health and Human Services, Labor, Housing and Urban Development, State and Transportation until September. It also keeps the Department of Homeland Security funded at 2025 levels until Feb. 13, which is meant to give Senate Democrats and the White House enough time to hash out a final deal on ICE and Customs and Border Protection reforms. But while Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) have said they won't accept anything short of reforms of those agencies, their GOP counterparts have cast doubt on the prospect of a quick deal. Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) went so far as to tell reporters that a deal by Feb. 13 was an "impossibility," floating a year-long stopgap funding bill to keep DHS open.

What they're saying: Jeffries has essentially threatened to allow a DHS shutdown if his demands aren't met, saying in a statement Tuesday, "Absent bold and meaningful change, there is no credible path forward with respect to the Department of Homeland Security funding bill next week." But Schumer, asked if he would make the same ultimatum at a press conference with Jeffries on Wednesday, told reporters, "I'm just going to say we're sending them a proposal and we await their response." Senate Democrats — unlike their House counterparts — have the ability to block a DHS funding bill because it takes a 60-vote majority to pass it in the upper chamber. Some Democrats, worried that the threat of a DHS shutdown is not enough to force Republicans to the table, feel Schumer gave up the party's best leverage by cutting a deal to reopen the rest of the government. "Every time that we are winning, we seem to somehow sabotage [it]," Ramirez fumed, noting that House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) has already ruled out several Democratic demands.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/2026/02/05/democrats-schumer-ice-government-shutdown?utm_medium=organic_social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_source=x

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"Needs to get the hell out": House Dems fume at Schumer (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle Yesterday OP
Alls I hope for is an A.O.C. primary. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #1
Please explain because I don't understand your post. Ferrets are Cool Yesterday #9
Pretty Sure... GB_RN Yesterday #24
I get it orangecrush Yesterday #31
If AOC does that and wins it will send a message to the institutional Democratic donors PatrickforB 4 hrs ago #59
Ms Ocasio-Cortez... GiqueCee Yesterday #13
Speculation is that AOC may primary Schumer BaronChocula Yesterday #22
Now THAT... GiqueCee Yesterday #47
But...but...she used to work at a bar!!! ECL213 Yesterday #25
Speaker John Boehner Seinan Sensei Yesterday #35
Did she fail a centrist purity test? Emile Yesterday #21
Neocon... yourout Yesterday #26
The AOC primary he is referring to means MadameButterfly Yesterday #36
It's a long way off, but if this happens BlueKota Yesterday #38
He can't meet the moment because he can't understand the gravity NewHendoLib Yesterday #2
He's a good guy, but he's playing old school, hoping the rethuig GOONS are willing to also play old school. bluestarone Yesterday #3
The older Democrats see the Republicans as "fellow Gentlemen" They are like me, just a little different viewpoint LiberalArkie Yesterday #5
Agree. bluestarone Yesterday #6
This attitude... DemocracyForever Yesterday #8
Go along to get along.. BattleRow Yesterday #18
Exactly! OldBaldy1701E 8 hrs ago #50
You're exactly right! DemocracyForever 6 hrs ago #54
Yes he's a kind of "Bob Dole-Howard Baker" guy, which was fine if this were 1990 FakeNoose Yesterday #12
My benefit of a doubt died orangecrush Yesterday #29
He's used to dealing with politians MadameButterfly Yesterday #37
Post removed Post removed 5 hrs ago #56
It would be wise to include relevant quotes for this assertion vanessa_ca 4 hrs ago #66
He doesn't seem to grasp that playing old school is just not what Republicans DO anymore. ShazzieB 4 hrs ago #58
Agreed. BlueKota Yesterday #39
I keep saying this, Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #4
Right there with you. nt Phoenix61 Yesterday #11
Totally agree Scubamatt Yesterday #34
The mistake is in thinking that Schumer is incapable of striking a hard bargain Prairie Gates Yesterday #7
Smells Garlandish LuvLoogie Yesterday #10
10-4 orangecrush Yesterday #28
We are fighting under the Marquis of Queensbury rules. BidenRocks Yesterday #14
They are shooting people in the face. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #16
I cannot emphasize this enough angrychair Yesterday #15
It takes backbone,NOT,wishbone. BattleRow Yesterday #20
Ivory Tower thinking is literally killing people and giving Democrats littlemissmartypants Yesterday #17
Pretty Much. GB_RN Yesterday #19
And that butter knife is made of tissue paper durablend 21 hrs ago #49
Replace him wit AverageOldGuy Yesterday #23
KILO & ROMEO orangecrush Yesterday #27
I truly believe that there's a Democratic Senator that would be a better leader dem4decades Yesterday #30
Ever since 9/11... tonekat Yesterday #32
We've been putting up with this shit for years, sorry to say. hadEnuf Yesterday #33
A brief overview of Republicans' role in the destruction of our country democrank Yesterday #40
When will Dems learn... Snackshack Yesterday #41
All of the old guard corporate Democrats need to go bob4460 Yesterday #42
What's in the proposal Shumer sent? Martin Eden Yesterday #43
Someone alerted on the OP. Said "Support Democrats." Intractable Yesterday #44
Someone else orangecrush Yesterday #46
as someone who wants chuckie gone quakerboy Yesterday #45
You have almost answered your own question Soul_of_Wit 4 hrs ago #62
and done 20 times as much damage ... stopdiggin 4 hrs ago #64
Agree with house Dems. It is time. republianmushroom 22 hrs ago #48
Good, get rid of him. dugog55 7 hrs ago #51
Typical Abstractartist 7 hrs ago #52
I think bdamomma 7 hrs ago #53
I agree, Chuck should have been gone from the Leader Role and just be an everyday Dem Sen. nt Exp 5 hrs ago #55
people are super upset that Schumer sent a proposal, when we don't even know what is in it? Seriously? LymphocyteLover 5 hrs ago #57
If you read the article. House Democrats seem to know what he negotiated. So there's that. Autumn 4 hrs ago #61
OK. I'm not saying Schumer is great. Just that the general tone from the commenters is not very helpful for us winning LymphocyteLover 2 hrs ago #68
Cue the outrage express .... Same song .. different day ... "NOT FIGHTING!!" Yawn ... - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 4 hrs ago #65
We need a fighter and that is not Schumer. He's too eager to give in and compromise. I want AOC Autumn 4 hrs ago #60
Let's say, hypothetically, Chuck Schumer does not seek re-election in '28 Quiet Em 4 hrs ago #63
I think she will run her next election. I can wait, by the time she's elected to the senate she's Autumn 3 hrs ago #67

GB_RN

(3,531 posts)
24. Pretty Sure...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:16 PM
Yesterday

That the commenter is saying they wish to see Chucky primaried by AOC. Polls I’ve seen for a theoretical matchup of the two, show Chucky decisively losing to her. Losing by about 20 points.

PatrickforB

(15,383 posts)
59. If AOC does that and wins it will send a message to the institutional Democratic donors
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 12:22 PM
4 hrs ago

from Middle Class kitchen tables everywhere that WE THE PEOPLE need OUR GOVERNMENT that WE PAY FOR WITH OUR TAXES to do stuff that actually benefits us.

Because the big money donors to BOTH PARTIES are Wall Steet establishment types or libertarian billionaire parasites who don't give one single shit about things like HEALTH CARE DEBT, SOCIAL SECURITY, CHILDCARE AND FREE PUBLIC EDUCATION.

I'm tired of the institionalists. The sooner Schumer is OUT the better it will be for every single member of the American middle class that has to juggle every fucking month to make ends meet. I'm sick of a fucking nonresponsive government that does not use my tax dollars to help me at the kitchen table.

GiqueCee

(3,618 posts)
13. Ms Ocasio-Cortez...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:41 PM
Yesterday

... is one of the smartest people in politics right now. I can see no worthwhile purpose in wishing her to be primaried. I, for one, would be happy to call her Madam President some day, if I live that long.

GiqueCee

(3,618 posts)
47. Now THAT...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:03 PM
Yesterday

... is an idea I can get behind! I wasn't aware that she was considering such action; that intent didn't seem clear in the original post. Thanks for the clarification.

MadameButterfly

(3,864 posts)
36. The AOC primary he is referring to means
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:00 PM
Yesterday

AOC primarying Schumer. I don't think anyone here is suggesting a primary of AOC's house seat.

NewHendoLib

(61,696 posts)
2. He can't meet the moment because he can't understand the gravity
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:53 PM
Yesterday

of the moment. Way too many politicians stay around way too long.

bluestarone

(21,631 posts)
3. He's a good guy, but he's playing old school, hoping the rethuig GOONS are willing to also play old school.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:59 PM
Yesterday

These GOONS have ZERO thought of playing old school. THEY have ZERO feelings for humanity. ZERO!!

LiberalArkie

(19,476 posts)
5. The older Democrats see the Republicans as "fellow Gentlemen" They are like me, just a little different viewpoint
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:04 PM
Yesterday

I do not think Schumer has ever met a Republican he did not like and trust. At least he acts like it.

bluestarone

(21,631 posts)
6. Agree.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:09 PM
Yesterday

His Hearts in the right place. BUT with these GOONS we need different more that that heart feeling, Sorry to say.

DemocracyForever

(50 posts)
8. This attitude...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:13 PM
Yesterday

is what's brought our country to the verge of becoming a Nazi dictatorship. This go along to get along, let's be nice crowd needs to be replaced with leaders who understand the gravity of the situation that our country is now in and are willing to make a stand to save our country. American democracy's very survival is at stake. The "nice" crowd seems to be oblivious to this ugly truth.

FakeNoose

(40,686 posts)
12. Yes he's a kind of "Bob Dole-Howard Baker" guy, which was fine if this were 1990
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:36 PM
Yesterday

But it's not 1990, and Bob Dole and Howard Baker are long gone. We're at the end of our rope and Chuck Schumer can't do anything but play nice. I'm sure the Repukes are taking advantage of that. There's no time for this anymore.

MadameButterfly

(3,864 posts)
37. He's used to dealing with politians
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:02 PM
Yesterday

This is a cult with. a malignant narcissits in the lead. They are menatally ill and cannot be reasonable, even in their own best interests.

Response to bluestarone (Reply #3)

vanessa_ca

(646 posts)
66. It would be wise to include relevant quotes for this assertion
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 01:07 PM
4 hrs ago
“My job,” Schumer recently told Times columnist Bret Stephens, “is to keep the left pro-Israel.” If this—and not the defense of liberal democracy—is what Schumer considers his primary job, it’s no surprise that he won’t full-throatedly defend Khalil, or the other students who ICE agents are snatching off the street for opposing Israel’s destruction of Gaza. In his downplaying of the threat of white Christian supremacy, and his ignorance of and disdain for the 20th-century popular movements that once fought it, Schumer cannot see that such a movement is needed again—and that it will need to embrace people like Mahmoud Khalil, who oppose tribal supremacy not only in the US, but in Palestine and Israel as well.

https://jewishcurrents.org/chuck-schumer-cannot-meet-the-moment

ShazzieB

(22,333 posts)
58. He doesn't seem to grasp that playing old school is just not what Republicans DO anymore.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 12:20 PM
4 hrs ago

It's baffling that he doesn't. Completely baffling.

Please retire, Chuck, and clear the way for someone who knows the score.

BlueKota

(5,137 posts)
39. Agreed.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:18 PM
Yesterday

I am an older American too, and I believe a lot of elder states-people still have a lot to offer, but not the ones who insist on living in the past. I see Senator Schumer as still entrenched in the quaint notion that his colleagues with an R behind their names are still basically "good-hearted" people, who while misguided, can be made to see reason.

He's dreaming. The majority of Rs are either cowards or greedy, power-hungry scum, who will do anything their dear leader commands them to, no matter who gets hurt in the process. They sold their souls to tsf in 2016, and have most don't working conscience anymore.

Most of them would sell their own families out. Anyone who doesn't get that, imho, isn't dealing with reality, and is waving the white flag without even pretending to stand up for the people who voted for them to do so.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,532 posts)
4. I keep saying this,
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:00 PM
Yesterday

and people get mad at me for "attacking" Democrats. I am not being "realistic" about the politics in DC.

Scubamatt

(271 posts)
34. Totally agree
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:57 PM
Yesterday

Questioning established leadership in favor of more outspoken and vocal leaders like AOC or Jasmine Crocket can soemtimes be marginalized on this Board.

Prairie Gates

(7,541 posts)
7. The mistake is in thinking that Schumer is incapable of striking a hard bargain
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:11 PM
Yesterday

The truth is that he usually strikes exactly the bargain that he wants.

Do with that what you will.

BidenRocks

(2,937 posts)
14. We are fighting under the Marquis of Queensbury rules.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:49 PM
Yesterday

They are full UFC.
Please explain this concept to our elder statesmen!

angrychair

(11,896 posts)
15. I cannot emphasize this enough
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:59 PM
Yesterday

Democrats are on the precipice of a very good day in the next election cycle. A very good day.

That said, if Democrats in Congress cave to Republicans or fail to at least seem to hold ice accountable for everything and demand systemic changes, it will significantly harm voter participation.

I say that after listening to a video of a professional wrestling match in Las Vegas last night in which the crowd, the entire crowd, was chanting "fuck ice" over and over again. Professional wrestling is typically very pro Republican. Has been for decades.

The sentiment is there to hold ice accountable. It only takes the backbone to make it happen.

littlemissmartypants

(32,781 posts)
17. Ivory Tower thinking is literally killing people and giving Democrats
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:07 PM
Yesterday

A bad reputation with the yout [sic] everywhere regardless.

It's very frustrating & fucking embarrassing.

Thank you for the discussion, Mr. Sparkle.

❤️🤍💙
🗳❌️👑

GB_RN

(3,531 posts)
19. Pretty Much.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:10 PM
Yesterday

Chucky is playing by rules that were thrown out the window by the Groping Old Perverts and Newt Gingrich used his Contract ON (not with) America to win a House majority.

Basically, Chucky brings a butter knife to a gun fight.

dem4decades

(13,852 posts)
30. I truly believe that there's a Democratic Senator that would be a better leader
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:39 PM
Yesterday

Someone inspirational, Someone that recognizes that the Republicans are willing to flush the entire Constitution down the toilet for power. They don't deserve the deference Schumer allows them.

tonekat

(2,482 posts)
32. Ever since 9/11...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:53 PM
Yesterday

I've had a feeling that the GOP would try to actually outlaw the Democratic party.

I feel we're getting pretty close to that, and Schumer hasn't a clue.

hadEnuf

(3,564 posts)
33. We've been putting up with this shit for years, sorry to say.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:54 PM
Yesterday

We were complaining about this before Pelosi finally had enough and got ugly with them. Even during Obama we were all complaining that he was trying to work with the right too much. I think he's learned since then though.

There is no compromise with the right. These people are bottom of the barrel neo-Nazis and white supremacists, while the rest of the so-called "normal" Republicans play see, hear and speak no evil. And I actually don't even think those ones really care how they get what they want as long as they get it.

democrank

(12,380 posts)
40. A brief overview of Republicans' role in the destruction of our country
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:19 PM
Yesterday

should be enough to convince Democrats that we need to be tougher. A lot tougher. Given all the present circumstances, we should be fighting back ferociously like our lives depend on it. We hear it over and over and over…..Democrats are weak. Time to disprove that criticism.

Snackshack

(2,576 posts)
41. When will Dems learn...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:20 PM
Yesterday

No need for an opposition party when they have ppl like lieberman, fetterman, sinema, manchin and many others in the past to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...

Martin Eden

(15,438 posts)
43. What's in the proposal Shumer sent?
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:48 PM
Yesterday

On that I would base my judgement on whether or not he's capable of driving a hard bargain.

Intractable

(1,747 posts)
44. Someone alerted on the OP. Said "Support Democrats."
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:49 PM
Yesterday

Too bad for the alerter.

Schumer is the one not supporting Democrats -- that is, me.

orangecrush

(29,323 posts)
46. Someone else
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:56 PM
Yesterday

Posted a thread claiming that if we aren't satisfied we are saying we aren't going to vote.

It was a great thread, like flypaper.

I won't be hearing from a long list of anti progressives.

Thanks to them for drawing them out.

quakerboy

(14,780 posts)
45. as someone who wants chuckie gone
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:55 PM
Yesterday

And is still pissed he gave us up in the end ofvthe first shutdown..

Can someone please explain to me why funding depts of housing, transportation, health, etc but not dhs is a bad thing?

Isn't that a selective shutdown of one ofvthe most corrupt departments without harming all the good workers of our government, or the people who need government to function for their continued safety and livelyhood?

In my book.. a dhs shutdown while the rest of government keeps going seems preferable to a full shutdown or the kind of weak deal that chuck normally takes

It seems like the only downside is ice is pre-funded for a good while. What am i missing?

Soul_of_Wit

(35 posts)
62. You have almost answered your own question
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 12:33 PM
4 hrs ago

DHS has black budgets that will get them through a long shutdown with little effect on them. Also, the excess ICE funding can be easily parceled out to other areas of DHS. A full government shutdown would have been riskier but also would have been much more effective. The opposing argument is that the country (not just those of us on the left) has an axe to grind specifically with ICE.

stopdiggin

(15,160 posts)
64. and done 20 times as much damage ...
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 12:48 PM
4 hrs ago

the reckoning of which, this thread appears to be almost totally devoid of. Is this wing of 'the party' completely blind to - or incapable of acknowledging 'costs' - (in terms of politics, pain, financial, and on .. ) that go along with shutdowns?

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dugog55

(371 posts)
51. Good, get rid of him.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 09:36 AM
7 hrs ago

All of these old time Democrats still think they can work with Republicans. That time is long gone. Obama tried it and got screwed repeatedly by McConnell. Biden still though he could work with the GOP, you just can't. They are too far gone. Everyone thinks that the Dems are going to far left. They are no further left than they were 60 years ago. They still want pretty much the same things for workers, the economy and the environment. The GOP however, has jumped of the radical right cliff and are light years away from the 50' and 60's when there was only minor differences in the two parties.

David Hogg was correct. We have to clean house and get rid of all the old dead wood in Congress. Kamala lost because she did not have the young peoples votes. The the two youngest generations that can vote want progressive policies and they just see Democrats as the other side of the same coin with the GOP. And for the most part they are correct. The Dems supported Israel's genocide on the Palestinians, the are beholding to corporate donors, and they are not protecting are natural environment from destruction by big corporations. They need to change and make it a big change. AOC and Sanders should be the norm, not outliers. This country will be better for it.

Abstractartist

(430 posts)
52. Typical
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 09:36 AM
7 hrs ago

Schumer is horrendous. When the democrats take control of the house and senate, they need to boot Schumer from the leader spot. Bring in new, younger blood… or stay in second place.

LymphocyteLover

(9,548 posts)
57. people are super upset that Schumer sent a proposal, when we don't even know what is in it? Seriously?
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 11:59 AM
5 hrs ago

And it brings out all the usual suspects who think Dems are complicit?

GTFOH.

Autumn

(48,866 posts)
61. If you read the article. House Democrats seem to know what he negotiated. So there's that.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 12:27 PM
4 hrs ago

And some are not fucking happy with it. I agree with what Rep. Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.) told Axios.

"He continues to demonstrate to us that he can't meet the moment,"

I'm sure she knows what she's talking about. Since she's there.

LymphocyteLover

(9,548 posts)
68. OK. I'm not saying Schumer is great. Just that the general tone from the commenters is not very helpful for us winning
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 02:59 PM
2 hrs ago

in November (and yeah, I know they will blame people like Schumer if we don't do as well as we should)

Autumn

(48,866 posts)
60. We need a fighter and that is not Schumer. He's too eager to give in and compromise. I want AOC
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 12:22 PM
4 hrs ago

At least I know she won't give Schumer's "friends on the other side of the aisle" everything they want.

Quiet Em

(2,636 posts)
63. Let's say, hypothetically, Chuck Schumer does not seek re-election in '28
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 12:44 PM
4 hrs ago

He'll be 77 in 2028, I know older age is a big thing for some people. So Chuck does not run in 2028 and AOC does, wins the election and becomes a Senator.

You don't honestly believe that the Senate will vote her in as Leader as soon as she walks in the door, do you?

Autumn

(48,866 posts)
67. I think she will run her next election. I can wait, by the time she's elected to the senate she's
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 02:16 PM
3 hrs ago

exactly what we will need

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