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RainCaster

(13,233 posts)
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:21 PM Saturday

Trump announces additional 10-per-cent tariff on Canada over Ontario ad

Source: The Canadian Press

U.S. President Donald Trump has announced an additional 10-per-cent tariff on Canada over an ad by the Ontario government.

The tariff will be “over and above what they are paying now,” Trump said Saturday on his social media platform Truth Social.

The Ontario government launched a $75-million anti-tariff ad campaign featuring former U.S. president Ronald Regan that was being broadcast in the U.S. and was scheduled to run until the end of January.

Late Thursday, Trump announced he was ending trade talks with Canada over the ad.

Read more: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/trump-announces-additional-10-per-cent-tariff-on-canada-over-ontario-ad/



Being "butt hurt" seems to be a permanent state of mind for TSF. How can the maga fanatics still not see that he negotiates like a child having a tantrum?
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Trump announces additional 10-per-cent tariff on Canada over Ontario ad (Original Post) RainCaster Saturday OP
I'm still waiting for Carney to put his Elbows Up Fiendish Thingy Saturday #1
Refusing to play tRump's game or to react impulsively is showing good spine. Carney plays the long game. Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #8
It may take a poke in the nose to get TACO to back down Fiendish Thingy Saturday #10
Another thing, Carney is keeping the power punches in reserve bc they hurt Canada & CUSMA still in place. Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #9
10% more that US citizens will have to cover one way or another wolfie001 Saturday #2
These tariffs aren't taxing Canada, he's taxing AMERICANS who buy Canadian products FakeNoose Saturday #3
Once again, Trump thinks tariffs will be paid by another country. Aussie105 Saturday #4
If Canada stopped all US commercial traffic on multigraincracker Saturday #5
If grievance was fatal Hey Joe Saturday #6
- Lemon Lyman Saturday #7
This message was self-deleted by its author GP6971 Saturday #11
Not actually locked an hour later. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #12
Sorry...it's now on the Home Page and can't be Locked. GP6971 Saturday #14
Links don't work in titles, but they do work in Reply texts. Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #13
Uh! Oh! I wonder what the tariff will be on our HOA when he finds out what our Board voted for. Wonder Why Saturday #15
I just saw this commercial on TV! RainCaster Saturday #16
I bet when he saw that commercial popsdenver Saturday #17
Basing US policy on his hurt feelings. Smh. Pompoy Saturday #18
Carney tells ASEAN summit Canada respects trade rules, as Trump threatens new tariffs BlueWavePsych Sunday #19
Thankful the Presidunce has the Emergency Powers Act. DPS Sunday #20
I never dreamed how much of a difference tavernier Sunday #21

Fiendish Thingy

(21,193 posts)
1. I'm still waiting for Carney to put his Elbows Up
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:34 PM
Saturday

Stopping oil shipments to the US, cutting off power to the rust belt supplied from Canada, reinstating reciprocal tariffs that were withdrawn- all would be a way of fighting back, showing some spine.

Carney is doing a good job creating new trade relations and strengthening others, but he’s got to give the bully a poke in the nose to show him Canada is not scared and isn’t fucking around.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,845 posts)
8. Refusing to play tRump's game or to react impulsively is showing good spine. Carney plays the long game.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:28 PM
Saturday

tRump plays the 30 second Tik Tok game.

Yes, a poke in the nose would be momentarily satisfying, but one thing that tRump really respects is tough negotiators. Which is why he constantly calls Canadians tough negotiators. I think time is on Canada's side, partly because China is also being a tough negotiator. tRump is frustrated, hence the temper tantrums.

Time seems to be needed for the economic decline I expected to begin five months ago. A confluence of factors is keeping the US economy balanced on a knife's edge. Everything has to go right and has so far gone right. But the balance depends on too many things, and when his economy slips he will be eager for a deal with Canada.

US unemployment is not higher because companies are in a no-fire mode due to the uncertainty of tRump policy. It is not lower because of all the gICEstapo turmoil. US GDP is not lower because AI capex is holding it above water. The stock market has not dramatically declined because of the AI capex and the promise of AI. That promise will not be fulfilled until the next AI summer. This round is fulfilling the promises of the last AI summer. Stock valuations are at very high levels relative to earnings and are based on future earnings that will continue to materialize until they don't.

Inflation is stubborn, but barely contained. Tariff disruption has been reduced because of the on-again off-again nature of TACO, so the effect has been smeared out and has not been the sudden shock that was anticipated. Smeared not by design, but by orange incompetence.

Inbound US travel is down. Inbound university education dollars and rents are down. Agricultural production is down and prices are not down. House construction and new house prices have been on the low end of stable because of higher costs (including labour shortages) at the same time as economic uncertainty. The tRump government shutdown bites more each day and those wounds won't disappear the day it stops.

Time is on the side of Canada and China as US midterms approach.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,193 posts)
10. It may take a poke in the nose to get TACO to back down
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:52 PM
Saturday

Sure Carney could wait a week or two and see if his tantrum ends, but at some point he’s going to get tired of being the recipient of endless Trump noogies.

As for the long game, by this time next year, both the Canadian and US economies will likely be in recession, although the US potentially in a deeper one.

Definitely bodes well for the US midterms, not so much for Carney- there’s already talk of a no confidence vote on his yet-to-be-submitted budget, which would trigger another election.

Even a symbolic poke in the nose from Carney to Trump could buy the prime minister some patience from the Canadian people.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,845 posts)
9. Another thing, Carney is keeping the power punches in reserve bc they hurt Canada & CUSMA still in place.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:50 PM
Saturday

tRump tariff taxes on US citizens are hurting his economy. Ten percent higher tariffs than 50 %, going to 60% will hurt US industry more than he realizes. Ford Motors was already concerned that a fire at a US aluminum producer is going to pressure Ford's inputs. The economic genius of the stable doesn't realize that raising 10% doesn't damage imports by 10%. The response curve is very steep above 25% tariffs.Ten percent extra tariffs does bigger economic damage than 10% because it is severe enough that more companies fold and everything gets harder to source and more expensive than 10% more.

CUSMA (USCMA) shields something like 84% of US-Canada trade. If tRump lets it lapse or cuts that off, then Carney can bring the hammer down on electricity and oil. Premier Ford is ready to shut off electricity, which would drive US rates through the roof on top of surging demand for data centres.

Shutting off oil would hurt Canadian unity and Alberta's Steele would exploit that chaos and Poilievre might not be able to resist either. Shutting off either or both would really hurt a limping Canadian economy and should not be deployed for feel-good vibes from virtual facial violence.

tRump has the CUSMA hammer and Carney has the oil-electricity hammer. Both are reluctant to use them, for good reasons on both sides.

wolfie001

(6,363 posts)
2. 10% more that US citizens will have to cover one way or another
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:34 PM
Saturday

Ignorant dumbass republiCON voters still haven't wrapped their feeble minds around that fact. Diaper Don has quite the cult worshipping him. Rev. Jim Jones would be jealous.

FakeNoose

(39,161 posts)
3. These tariffs aren't taxing Canada, he's taxing AMERICANS who buy Canadian products
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:38 PM
Saturday

Link: https://usetorg.com/blog/what-does-the-us-import-from-canada

1. What does the US import the most from Canada?
Energy leads the pack — crude oil, natural gas, and electricity constitute the largest portion of imports. These fuels power American power plants, fill stations, and industry. Additionally, US imports Canadian food. Canada's stable production and geographical proximity make it the US's first choice for these vital commodities.

2. What does the US rely on Canada for?
The US relies largely on Canada for more than energy alone. Automotive components from Canadian plants supply US assembly lines, minerals enhance manufacturing, and agricultural commodities stock supermarket shelves. This border-to-border supply is reliable and less susceptible to the long lead times or political turmoil that plague other suppliers.

3. What foods does the U.S. imports from Canada?
US imports of Canadian products consist of Alberta beef, Atlantic sea fishery products, British Columbia fresh fruits and vegetables, and value-added baked foods from large food processing companies. Specialty and seasonal products are also exported south, making US consumers enjoy year-round access to products that otherwise would be too expensive or not available.

4. Does the US import more from Canada than it exports?
The balance of trade varies from year to year, but US imports from Canada tend to exceed exports by a narrow margin. This is partly because Canada export to US so much energy product, which has considerable total value relative to much of the other products in the mix of trade.

5. What US states import the most from Canada?
Those with good industrial bases and geographical destination top the list. Michigan imports car parts for its car plants, New York exchanges heavily in both energy and merchandise, Illinois and Ohio import manufacturing inputs, and California imports food products and packaged goods.
- more at link -

Aussie105

(7,333 posts)
4. Once again, Trump thinks tariffs will be paid by another country.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:55 PM
Saturday

And not the US consumers.

In the light of reality, that being sticker prices that can be seen to go up when Americans buy foreign stuff, does anyone still believe the tariffs are paid by 'them forinners'?

Not even the dumbest MAGAt can be that thick!

Response to RainCaster (Original post)

Wonder Why

(6,304 posts)
15. Uh! Oh! I wonder what the tariff will be on our HOA when he finds out what our Board voted for.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:08 PM
Saturday

RainCaster

(13,233 posts)
16. I just saw this commercial on TV!
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:13 PM
Saturday

It played during the world series game this afternoon. It looked very well done. Hard to get upset about the words of Saint Ronald.

BlueWavePsych

(3,209 posts)
19. Carney tells ASEAN summit Canada respects trade rules, as Trump threatens new tariffs
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 09:21 AM
Sunday
Carney told ASEAN leaders on Sunday that the emergence of “transactional bilateral trade” and a new era of great power rivalry are challenging the global institutions that middle powers like Canada and Southeast Asian countries have relied upon.

He said those changes underscore the need for reliable partners — and said Canada is one such partner.

After a meeting with the president of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr., Carney’s office said the pair agreed to try and finalize a bilateral trade agreement in 2026.

Carney also met with the prime ministers of Laos and Vietnam on the sidelines of the summit before taking part in a fireside chat at the ASEAN business and investment summit.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/carney-tells-asean-summit-canada-respects-trade-rules-as-trump-threatens-new-tariffs/

Heavy-duty emotional intelligence on display. Not takling tRump bait for reaction.

DPS

(4 posts)
20. Thankful the Presidunce has the Emergency Powers Act.
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 10:12 AM
Sunday

This additional tariff is exactly what the Emergency Powers Act was established to respond to. /s
What say you, SCOTUS?

tavernier

(14,036 posts)
21. I never dreamed how much of a difference
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 08:33 PM
Sunday

our Canadian tourists make here where I live until October arrived this year. Normally it is buzzing like a beehive with traffic increasing daily in leaps and bounds, restaurants jam crammed full, no vacancy signs all over the place. This year it looks closer to a ghost town in comparison. Just keep on pissing off those Canadians, you dimwit, and the chances of them ever coming back will go from slim to none.

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