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Polybius

(21,033 posts)
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:04 PM Wednesday

Fetterman supports eliminating filibuster to break government shutdown stalemate

Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

WASHINGTON —Three weeks into what’s become the longest full government shutdown in history, U.S. Sen. John Fetterman said he would fully endorse the idea of Republicans bypassing the filibuster rule so they could pass their spending plan without any Democratic support.

The Pennsylvania Democrat has bucked his party since the shutdown began, repeatedly voting for the GOP plan despite Democrats insisting that it include an extension of expiring healthcare credits.

But ending the filibuster would make Mr. Fetterman’s vote — or the support of any Democratic senator — unnecessary. Instead of requiring 60 votes to pass, it would allow the spending bill to pass with a simple majority.

“That would make it virtually impossible to shut it down,” Mr. Fetterman told reporters Tuesday.

Read more: https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-state/2025/10/22/fetterman-government-shutdown-filibuster/stories/202510220057

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Fetterman supports eliminating filibuster to break government shutdown stalemate (Original Post) Polybius Wednesday OP
You know, of course, if Dems were in the majority Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #1
WRONG. He has maintained a position of being in favor of abolishing the filibuster Wiz Imp Wednesday #13
Correct, Thank you Deminpenn Wednesday #19
Irrelevant angrychair Wednesday #21
He has changed his positions on many issues since being elected. Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #22
How about naming some of those "many" positions he's changed? Wiz Imp Wednesday #23
Are you saying you're unaware of his switches on policy and opposing Dems' agenda? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #24
I'm saying none of those articles points to a single position he has changed Wiz Imp Wednesday #25
Fettermanchinema fujiyamasan Wednesday #2
He's the exact opposite of Manchin and Sinema. Wiz Imp Wednesday #14
The Republicans could end their shutdown of governmental services markodochartaigh Wednesday #3
Of course they could. But they won't. They are hellbent on making Democrats accomplices. pat_k Wednesday #11
Come on 2028 bluestarone Wednesday #4
This fucking guy...eyeroll johnnyfins Wednesday #5
I'll happily say goodbye to the filibuster. It's a product of slave states, and has been abused by the GOP for years. Gore1FL Wednesday #6
Ending the 60 vote... Mike Nelson Wednesday #7
I actually agree JBTaurus83 Wednesday #8
"We the People" aren't regaining the Senate anytime soon. Not this decade. maxsolomon Thursday #32
Too bad republicans are hellbent on making Democrats accomplices to the most unpopular budget ever. pat_k Wednesday #9
Isn't that precious? ananda Wednesday #10
bless his heart Shellback Squid Wednesday #12
He's a true upside-down patriot. mdbl Wednesday #15
Most people here complained loudly for 4 years of Biden's Presidency about the Wiz Imp Wednesday #16
But there would be no democracy left if the republicans had "complete" control. BComplex Wednesday #18
If Republicans believed that were true, the filibuster would already be gone. Wiz Imp Wednesday #20
You're the only one talking sense Username1234 Wednesday #26
I think centrists on either side are afraid to get rid of it because they know the other side will regain power someday MichMan Thursday #28
You know what? This has always been his stance. herding cats Wednesday #17
Fetterman is a drooling moron if he believes the Republicans will actually negotiate an extension after the... LudwigPastorius Wednesday #27
It seems that stroke really did a number on him quakerboy Thursday #29
When is his... 2naSalit Thursday #30
DINO, Here DINO ? republianmushroom Thursday #31

Fiendish Thingy

(21,145 posts)
1. You know, of course, if Dems were in the majority
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:10 PM
Wednesday

And trying to kill the filibuster to expand the court, he would be opposed.

He will be forcibly retired at the end of his term.

Wiz Imp

(7,799 posts)
13. WRONG. He has maintained a position of being in favor of abolishing the filibuster
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:05 PM
Wednesday

from the day his campaign first started.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/10/politics/john-fetterman-filibuster-senate-race

John Fetterman wants Democrats to stop wasting time and eliminate the filibuster
Published 7:01 AM EDT, Fri September 10, 2021
John Fetterman thinks Senate Democrats are making a big mistake.

The party has a rare opportunity with a majority in Congress and control of the White House. But Fetterman, Pennsylvania’s lieutenant governor who is running for Senate, fears Democrats are wasting that opportunity by not eliminating the filibuster and failing to enact key priorities.

“Stop apologizing for the space we take up as a party and ram some stuff through and get it done,” Fetterman said in an interview with CNN. “As a Democrat, I would just hate to be in a position of only being able to accomplish what Mitch McConnell allows us to.”

“When you have the kind of extreme measures that are being used by the Republicans, now is the time to stand together. These are dangerous times,” he said. “I guarantee the Republicans, given the chance, would be far more ruthless.”

Deminpenn

(17,071 posts)
19. Correct, Thank you
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:06 PM
Wednesday

Iirc, Fetterman voters and supporters were 100% on board with that idea.

angrychair

(11,322 posts)
21. Irrelevant
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 10:40 PM
Wednesday

Fetterman endorsement of a Republican plan to sabotage healthcare and kill millions of people is a betrayal of the trust his voters put in him.

Wiz Imp

(7,799 posts)
25. I'm saying none of those articles points to a single position he has changed
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:37 PM
Wednesday

other than being labeled "progressive".

Wiz Imp

(7,799 posts)
14. He's the exact opposite of Manchin and Sinema.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:06 PM
Wednesday

He was begging for the Democrats to eliminate the filibuster in 2021 and Manchin and Sinema would not do it.

markodochartaigh

(4,472 posts)
3. The Republicans could end their shutdown of governmental services
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:13 PM
Wednesday

anytime they wanted by voting to get rid of the filibuster, even if it was only for this vote. It is the Republicans' filibuster and they will end it when they want to end it.

Gore1FL

(22,655 posts)
6. I'll happily say goodbye to the filibuster. It's a product of slave states, and has been abused by the GOP for years.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:19 PM
Wednesday

They are going to cause major damage no matter how this all plays out. At least this way, the GOP will own every bit of it.

Mike Nelson

(10,805 posts)
7. Ending the 60 vote...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:22 PM
Wednesday

... filibuster level should NEVER be ended when Republicans are in the majority!

JBTaurus83

(723 posts)
8. I actually agree
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:32 PM
Wednesday

End it and let them pass their own piece of shit. Eventually we the people will regain the senate, and they will regret their many poor decisions.

maxsolomon

(37,669 posts)
32. "We the People" aren't regaining the Senate anytime soon. Not this decade.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:26 PM
Thursday

There are too many low-population states that are just lost to Dems.

pat_k

(12,142 posts)
9. Too bad republicans are hellbent on making Democrats accomplices to the most unpopular budget ever.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:48 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:58 PM - Edit history (1)

They won't use the nuclear option because Republicans absolutely don't want to own this. They want to be able to say "If Democrats objected, they could have stopped it."

It sounds insane, condemning Democrats for stopping it while praying they can force Democrats to cave so they can spread the blame for implementing the MAGA Murder Budget around.

Internal consistency has never a problem for these crazy people.

Wiz Imp

(7,799 posts)
16. Most people here complained loudly for 4 years of Biden's Presidency about the
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:15 PM
Wednesday

Democrats not eliminating the filibuster. Amazingly, many of these same people are now perfectly willing to be total hypocrites and going crazy when a person who has opposed the filibuster from day one of his Senate campaign announces his position on the filibuster hasn't changed. Sheesh.

Or do some people here actually think it's possible for the Democrats to eliminate the filibuster for themselves but require it to still be enforced by Republicans? For the record, Democrats have eliminated the filibuster for Cabinet (and other Presidential nominees) nominations and Judicial nominations. Republicans eliminated it for Supreme Court nominations. There is no going back on any of these. If the filibuster had never been eliminated, we wouldn't have the horrific cabinet we have now, but we also would never have gotten numerous Biden Cabinet appointees confirmed either.

It's going to get eliminated completely at some point. Republicans eliminating it now would mean the Republicans would COMPLETELY own every single bad thing that happens going forward. Nothing could be blamed on Democrats. It's for that reason that Republicans are unlikely to eliminate it.

BComplex

(9,652 posts)
18. But there would be no democracy left if the republicans had "complete" control.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:33 PM
Wednesday

It may be too late as it is.

Username1234

(36 posts)
26. You're the only one talking sense
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:40 PM
Wednesday

Historically, the filibuster has been used to protect conservative priorities, and negate progressive ones. It was also never meant to be used in this way.

If Democrats actually had some blood smelling sharks in their midst, they would understand it’s a good thing. And let MAGAts own the disaster that follows.

BE AN OPPOSITION PARTY, DEMS!

MichMan

(16,151 posts)
28. I think centrists on either side are afraid to get rid of it because they know the other side will regain power someday
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:02 AM
Thursday

herding cats

(19,915 posts)
17. You know what? This has always been his stance.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:27 PM
Wednesday

I'm not kidding. Look it up.

Yep. The more time goes by the more I keep seeing people acting as if he's a whole new animal than he was when he was elected as a "Progressive" and a populist. Due to the stroke, don't ya know.

I'm beginning to think maybe some folks saw what they wanted to see because of some high profile endorsements he had. After that they just stopped vetting and started blindly following.

LudwigPastorius

(13,659 posts)
27. Fetterman is a drooling moron if he believes the Republicans will actually negotiate an extension after the...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:53 PM
Wednesday

filibuster is eliminated and the GOP spending bill is passed.

THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK, John. They are all in on Trump's authoritarian takeover, and no long believe that they have any obligation whatsoever to voters.

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