Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

BumRushDaShow

(161,980 posts)
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:30 AM Sunday

Shutdown Fight Reopens Debate in G.O.P. Over Health Care

Source: New York Times

Oct. 19, 2025, 5:01 a.m. ET


The federal shutdown that is nearing its fourth week with no end in sight carries plenty of political risk for Democrats, who Republicans have accused of refusing to fulfill their responsibility to fund the government. But it has also thrust President Trump and the G.O.P. onto the defensive on health care, an issue that has long been a major weakness for the party.

Democrats in Congress are holding fast to their position that they will not agree to a spending deal unless Republicans include an extension of expiring Affordable Care Act tax credits that would stave off premium increases and the loss of coverage for millions of Americans. In doing so, they have forced the G.O.P. to wrestle publicly with its divisions about what to do with the health care law, which most Republicans revile but many recognize would be impossible to unravel without bringing political disaster to their party.

Some hard-line Republicans are still pressing to repeal Obamacare outright, while others concede it is unwise to do so without a clear plan of what to do instead — something that their party has long discussed but has never been able to agree upon. Mr. Trump, who told Republicans in 2023 to “never give up” in seeking to repeal the 2010 health law, has yet to clearly articulate what he favors instead.

For now, Republican leaders in Congress have mostly opted to try to change the conversation, insisting that they have a health care plan but declining to describe what it is.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/10/19/rubio-el-salvador-prison-bukele-ms13-informants/



No paywall (gift)
4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Shutdown Fight Reopens Debate in G.O.P. Over Health Care (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sunday OP
I long for the day when the press will correctly laugh at these idiots for trying to gaslight us. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #1
I'm surprised that there is any debate at all within Republican circles WestMichRad Sunday #2
Maybe I am the stupid one AnnaLee Sunday #3
Extra stupid as health care isn't "giving someone something" it creates jobs IbogaProject Sunday #4

OldBaldy1701E

(9,357 posts)
1. I long for the day when the press will correctly laugh at these idiots for trying to gaslight us.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 09:16 AM
Sunday

What a bunch of lying asshats.

The Democrats are trying to keep people alive. The rethugs are not.

Why this is not being screamed from every rooftop I will never know.

WestMichRad

(2,732 posts)
2. I'm surprised that there is any debate at all within Republican circles
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 09:48 AM
Sunday

… about health care. Most seem to have gone full libertarian: “I’ve got mine so f**k y’all.”

AnnaLee

(1,318 posts)
3. Maybe I am the stupid one
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 10:19 AM
Sunday

Because I just don't get it. How are essentials to life itself more negotiable than more money for people who don't need it? Is enslavement of a permanent underclass by removing the means and time to fight back the ultimate goal?

IbogaProject

(5,206 posts)
4. Extra stupid as health care isn't "giving someone something" it creates jobs
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 01:11 PM
Sunday

And more importantly once scaled up could make for far less crowding in emergency rooms. I've been to an ER for a very severe situation in Western Europe and it was such a different experience to my set of American ER visits. In t it was much less overburdened and there was no talk of any payment until much later (weeks) in the process.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Shutdown Fight Reopens De...