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ForgoTheConsequence

(5,109 posts)
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 08:08 PM Oct 13

Schumer, Clinton give Trump credit for Gaza ceasefire, hostage release

Source: The Hill

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and former President Clinton gave President Trump credit for the ceasefire in Gaza and the return of Israeli hostages by Hamas.

“Today is a wonderful day. Finally, finally, finally, the last living hostages brutally held by Hamas are home, an immense and overwhelming sigh of relief,” Schumer said in a statement obtained by The Hill’s sister network NewsNation.

“I commend the enormous advocacy of the tireless hostage families, President Trump, his administration, and all who helped make this moment happen,” the Senate Democratic leader added.



Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5553689-chuck-schumer-bill-clinton-trump-gaza/

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Schumer, Clinton give Trump credit for Gaza ceasefire, hostage release (Original Post) ForgoTheConsequence Oct 13 OP
I'll give Trump credit True Dough Oct 13 #1
I was gonna rec this but i'm thinking NO, bluestarone Oct 14 #22
WTF?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 13 #2
WTAF orangecrush Oct 14 #13
No mention Senator Schumer about the 1700 Palestinians also released today.. AloeVera Oct 13 #3
And all innocent as newborn babes NoRethugFriends Oct 14 #26
They were guilty of being Palestinian. AloeVera Oct 14 #30
Some were bad actors, some were innocent NoRethugFriends Oct 14 #33
How do you know some were bad actors? AloeVera Oct 14 #40
I don't need your hat tip. NoRethugFriends Oct 14 #42
No worries. All is well NoRethugFriends Oct 14 #44
Once again: thanks for nothing, Democratic "leadership." (nt) Paladin Oct 13 #4
Mark my words Mrsfiddlegirl Oct 13 #5
Agreed... TheCowsCameHome Oct 13 #7
The grift is right in the terms of the peace agreement . . . Ms. Toad Oct 14 #9
"Board of Peace", Yeah, a Piece of Land for Drumphfy alright in the mix. electric_blue68 Oct 14 #38
Doubtful he Rebl2 Oct 14 #43
If we're lucky! electric_blue68 Oct 14 #45
Was thinkin the same thing...contrary to Chuck & Bill, the Grifter-in-Chief deserves zero accolades for this deal!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 14 #15
I'm very concermed that many Israelies will strongly support tmp in public; elleng Oct 13 #6
Piss on Schumer and Clinton. AverageOldGuy Oct 13 #8
Seriously... do these people know how to "read a room"? InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 14 #14
All Praise Dear Leader Cirsium Oct 14 #10
We have a centrist problem. Emile Oct 14 #11
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Ray Bruns Oct 14 #12
All hail to the dicktater. Disgusting that top Democrats are caving. Clouds Passing Oct 14 #16
What are they supposed to do? Pretend it didn't happen? FBaggins Oct 14 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 14 #18
Nobody here has posted they hope it falls apart, so why do you inject that RW talking point? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 14 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 14 #20
You raised a straw man and knocked it down. Here's a direct question for you to answer: Bernardo de La Paz Oct 14 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 14 #23
Well, then, Welcome to DU. My suspicions seem unfounded. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 14 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 14 #28
It seems my initial impression may have been correct after all. My question was not a trap, it was a test Bernardo de La Paz Oct 14 #39
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Oct 14 #32
If Wishes Were Horses Deep State Witch Oct 14 #37
Well, my thing is we do NOT know the details of what and how this deal will work, or what deals have been made. bluestarone Oct 14 #24
They are mainly commenting on the hostages that were released JI7 Oct 14 #36
So, they are giving Trump credit Miguelito Loveless Oct 14 #27
Schumer really can't figure out when to use less words or just shut up. Stop gifting Trump please !!! dutch777 Oct 14 #29
Seems like a lot of DU folks are unhappy with the comradebillyboy Oct 14 #31
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I think most of us older folks Tree Lady Oct 14 #35
Reagan backdoor deal or not, a huge amount of people wanted Carter to bomb Iran for the hostages Polybius Oct 14 #41

AloeVera

(3,904 posts)
3. No mention Senator Schumer about the 1700 Palestinians also released today..
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 08:30 PM
Oct 13

All of them kidnapped from Gaza and brutally held without charges in Israeli prisons some for 2 years?

Their families are rejoicing too, Senator.

Or the many thousands - doctors, nurses and innocents still held in prisons without charges and abused and starved every day. Perhaps spare a word of hope for their imminent freedom too, Senator.



AloeVera

(3,904 posts)
30. They were guilty of being Palestinian.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:48 AM
Oct 14

And being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Other than those things, Israel couldn't come up with ANY plausible charges for the 1,700 Gazans it tortured and abused for up to two years. Thousands more remain in Israeli torture camps, also without charges.

At least 75 detainees have died in these awful places, tortured to death or dead from intentional withholding of life-saving medical treatment.

Israeli authorities must urgently end the systematic torture and other ill-treatment of Palestinians held in their prisons and other places of detention and protect and ensure their right to life. Israeli authorities have deliberately imposed conditions of detention that amount to torture or other forms of ill-treatment and that have contributed to the deaths of detainees, while the culture of impunity and the denial of International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) access have predictably fostered extreme violence against Palestinians in Israeli jails.

Israeli authorities must immediately comply with the 7 September Israeli High Court of Justice decision ordering the State to improve the quantity and quality of food provided to Palestinian prisoners. The court confirmed that the conditions deliberately imposed by Israeli authorities fail to meet basic nutritional standards. The decision, however, is too late to save thousands of Palestinians from ill-treatment. Furthermore, the authorities have publicly refused to comply with the order. The Israeli authorities have also reportedly attempted to conceal reports prepared by the Public Defender’s Office regarding the treatment of Palestinian detainees and their conditions, citing national security concerns.

Between 7 October 2023 and 31 August 2025, at least 75 Palestinians, including a 17-year-old child, have died in Israeli detention (49 from Gaza, 24 from the West Bank and 2 Palestinian citizens of Israel), according to the UN Human Rights office in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. Israeli authorities have released information indicating the death of another 19 detainees, without sufficient details to enable the verification of their identity. In addition, at least 5 Palestinians, one of them a 16-year-old child, have died while in Israeli custody shortly after being shot by Israeli security forces, in some cases following a failure to ensure prompt medical attention after the unlawful use of lethal force.

Of the 75 deaths in detention, at least 22 detainees reportedly had health conditions requiring medical attention prior to their arrest, raising concerns that the denial of such medical care coupled with harsh detention conditions may have been calculated to contribute to their deaths. In at least 12 cases, we gathered testimonies or evidence in the form of autopsy reports that detainees died after being beaten or tortured by Israeli security forces.

We have documented the systematic torture and ill-treatment to which Israel has subjected Palestinian prisoners, including repeated beatings, waterboarding, stress positions, the use of rape and other sexual and gender-based violence and the imposition of deliberately inhumane conditions such as starvation and the denial of clean clothes, hygiene necessities and medical care.


More at the link!
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/ohchr-press-release-17sep25/

NoRethugFriends

(3,548 posts)
33. Some were bad actors, some were innocent
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 01:17 PM
Oct 14

But for you, it seems it's all or nothing.
And UN credibility is close to zero.
And my usual disclaimer, yes, I believe that Netanyahu and his government are horrible disgusting human beings.

AloeVera

(3,904 posts)
40. How do you know some were bad actors?
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:13 PM
Oct 14

Is it because they're Palestinian? After all, they weren't charged with any crime.

For you, it seems no group of Palestinians can be without bad actors. What does that indicate, wonder if you've given that any thought?

For you also, I imagine Amnesty and HRW are also low cred. Too bad, they have some reports out too on the abuse of Palestinian prisoners and the war crimes of Israel. I don't imagine you'll be reading those either.

That Netanyahu et al are horrible and disgusting is not saying much. Now if you were to suddenly acknowledge that Israel is committing genocide and intentionally starving people in order to get them to leave their homeland so Israeli settlers can take over Gaza - and that's been the plan all along - I'd give you a hat tip at the very least.

Mrsfiddlegirl

(46 posts)
5. Mark my words
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 08:51 PM
Oct 13

Mark my words, there is a huge waterfront development in this deal for the Tangerine King and his family. There is always, always a grift as he is simply transactional with no motive for the greater good of humanity.

Ms. Toad

(37,922 posts)
9. The grift is right in the terms of the peace agreement . . .
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 12:15 AM
Oct 14
9. Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the "Board of Peace," which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J. Trump, with other members and heads of state to be announced, including Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. This body will set the framework and handle the funding for the redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform programme, as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump's peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi-French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create modern and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment.

10. A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energise Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well-meaning international groups, and will be considered to synthesize the security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity, and hope for future Gaza.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70155nked7o

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,442 posts)
15. Was thinkin the same thing...contrary to Chuck & Bill, the Grifter-in-Chief deserves zero accolades for this deal!!
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 09:14 AM
Oct 14

elleng

(141,291 posts)
6. I'm very concermed that many Israelies will strongly support tmp in public;
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 09:03 PM
Oct 13

have seen it several times, on U.S. t.v.

AverageOldGuy

(3,106 posts)
8. Piss on Schumer and Clinton.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 11:42 PM
Oct 13

NetanTheYahoo capitulated because his own people were in the streets by the thousands and the rest of the Arab world was on his ass.

I hope AOC primaries Schumer and stomps the shit out of him.

Meanwhile, someone needs to check out Clinton for dementia.

I'm an 80-yr-old FDR New Deal Democrat who -- as a college student in Alabama in the mid-1960's -- marched in Birmingham, Selma, and Montgomery.

If we Democrats are to get out of the wilderness, we need new leaders who are in touch with today.

Cirsium

(3,045 posts)
10. All Praise Dear Leader
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 01:46 AM
Oct 14

Let's all give praise to our great and glorious leader, may his name forever shine down through the ages. Defender of the people, peacemaker, the chosen one.






FBaggins

(28,527 posts)
17. What are they supposed to do? Pretend it didn't happen?
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 10:07 AM
Oct 14

No matter how close to reality - it just looks silly to try to credit the previous administration in mid October. And trying to ignore the biggest story of the day isn't likely to work either.

A tepid congratulations and waiting for it to all fall apart is likely the best strategy.

Response to FBaggins (Reply #17)

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,848 posts)
19. Nobody here has posted they hope it falls apart, so why do you inject that RW talking point?
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 10:43 AM
Oct 14

Did you post minutes ago on an account that got blocked?

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #19)

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,848 posts)
21. You raised a straw man and knocked it down. Here's a direct question for you to answer:
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 10:57 AM
Oct 14

Who is the better president, tRump or Biden?

Will you dodge?

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #21)

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,848 posts)
25. Well, then, Welcome to DU. My suspicions seem unfounded.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:06 AM
Oct 14

You had registered within minutes of two previous registrants who posted RW talking points and got shut down almost immediately. Hence my suspicions.

May you have a long trajectory supporting Democrats, the Democratic Party, liberals, and progressives on DU.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #25)

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,848 posts)
39. It seems my initial impression may have been correct after all. My question was not a trap, it was a test
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 05:21 PM
Oct 14

So the response was a lie.

Deep State Witch

(12,383 posts)
37. If Wishes Were Horses
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 03:06 PM
Oct 14

Everyone would ride.

Look, we all want the Israelis and Palestinians to live in peace. But the history of the region tells us otherwise.

bluestarone

(20,606 posts)
24. Well, my thing is we do NOT know the details of what and how this deal will work, or what deals have been made.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:05 AM
Oct 14

Timing is important i feel. They should at least wait for ALL the details to unfold?

JI7

(92,859 posts)
36. They are mainly commenting on the hostages that were released
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 02:24 PM
Oct 14

we can always criticize him for the other things.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,292 posts)
27. So, they are giving Trump credit
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:31 AM
Oct 14

for implementing Biden's peace plan that Trump blocked.

No wonder we lose.

dutch777

(4,745 posts)
29. Schumer really can't figure out when to use less words or just shut up. Stop gifting Trump please !!!
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:44 AM
Oct 14

I get the part he is Jewish and, as we all should, celebrates the release of the hostages and a decrease in hostilities but you don't have to pump Trump at the same time. That will come back in a 2026 political ad for the GOP. Please, please...play smart politics if you want to stay in the game!

comradebillyboy

(10,902 posts)
31. Seems like a lot of DU folks are unhappy with the
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 12:14 PM
Oct 14

cease fire. The ugly truth is Trump made it happen not Biden.

Will there be a lasting peace? I doubt it because the chief impediment is that the Palestinians refuse to accept the continued existence of Israel.

Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #31)

Tree Lady

(12,835 posts)
35. I think most of us older folks
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 02:15 PM
Oct 14

Still remember what Reagan did to Carter with the hostages so he could win and have everyone praise him for something Jimmy did. Supposedly Joe set up same deal months ago and after Trump met with Israel's leader before election he held off.

Polybius

(21,050 posts)
41. Reagan backdoor deal or not, a huge amount of people wanted Carter to bomb Iran for the hostages
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:45 PM
Oct 14

Had he done it, his reelection chances would have skyrocketed.

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