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BumRushDaShow

(161,796 posts)
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 07:53 AM Monday

Trump 'looking at all options' amid threats to invoke Insurrection Act, Vance says

Source: The Guardian

Sun 12 Oct 2025 14.07 EDT
Last modified on Sun 12 Oct 2025 21.30 EDT


The White House is talking about invoking the Insurrection Act that would allow the deployment of military troops on US soil to quell domestic unrest amid legal challenges over the moves, JD Vance confirmed on Sunday. Vance was asked on NBC News’s Meet the Press whether Donald Trump was seriously considering invoking the emergency power to deploy national guard forces and even the US military in domestic settings.

“The president’s looking at all of his options,” he said, adding that “we are talking about this because crime has gotten out of control in our cities”. Trump’s attempts to use federal national guard forces in Democratic-run cities has faced challenges in the courts, most notably in Chicago in recent days.

The vice-president’s ominous remarks came days after Trump referred to the Insurrection Act from the Oval Office, bluntly stating: “If I had to enact it, I would do that.” Military forces are forbidden from engaging in law enforcement duties on home soil. But under the Insurrection Act, which was signed in 1807, the president can deploy them domestically in cases of insurrection or rebellion, violence that is preventing the functioning of federal laws.

The power was used during the 1960s civil rights movement during clashes over desegregation of the south but since then has been very rarely activated. The last time a president called on it was in 1992 when the governor of California requested military aid from George HW Bush in response to civil unrest in Los Angeles.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/12/trump-vance-insurrection-act-military

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Trump 'looking at all options' amid threats to invoke Insurrection Act, Vance says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Monday OP
Would the Military (the Pentagon) respect orders to occupy cities and towns no_hypocrisy Monday #1
Historically, armies follow orders Miguelito Loveless Monday #12
Nice way to start Civil War II. hadEnuf Monday #2
A real adversary will strike while this is going on cpamomfromtexas Monday #3
who does he think he is fooling? azureblue Monday #4
the same idiots he always fools Skittles Monday #24
Fictional domestic unrest. cstanleytech Monday #5
Non-fiction government organized violence against peaceful citizens. ancianita Monday #6
He missed his chance, there was a day that Chump could have invoked the Insurrection Act ... FakeNoose Monday #7
Of course it's NOT insurrection when it's done on Trump's behalf. n/t Beartracks Monday #19
It's the only way he will be able to cling on to power. Scary times. Mr. Sparkle Monday #8
He's having his ultimate wet dream.................from a guy that is a convicted 34 count felon.......... turbinetree Monday #9
Cadet Bonespurs Skittles Monday #25
That to.......and a fascist turbinetree Monday #28
I've got a bad feeling about No Kings Day. They are amping up to rhetoric underpants Monday #10
They may try to "blow their wad" early BumRushDaShow Monday #11
Yes. They are all parroting the same script. yellow dahlia Monday #15
I have to go alone this time Tree Lady Monday #22
trying to suppress attendance, that's for sure Skittles Monday #26
He and his goons are the only ones insurrecting. appleannie1 Monday #13
Crime is not Insurrection. Insurrection is trying to overthrow the Government. maxsolomon Monday #14
But - Jan 6 fit the definition of insurrection, yellow dahlia Monday #16
It is utterly astounding... GiqueCee Monday #17
To quell "IMAGINARY domestic unrest"... Beartracks Monday #18
What domestic unrest? People don't like his shitty ICE goons destroying lives, communities, and families? Initech Monday #20
Vance should be ashamed of himself. 😡😠🤬 ShazzieB Monday #21
"They're dressing up in inflatable frog costumes and arguing with us! struggle4progress Monday #23
They intend to pull some really horrible shit on the Klarkashton Monday #27

no_hypocrisy

(53,427 posts)
1. Would the Military (the Pentagon) respect orders to occupy cities and towns
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 08:03 AM
Monday

where they can clearly see that there is no crisis?

Miguelito Loveless

(5,269 posts)
12. Historically, armies follow orders
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 11:24 AM
Monday

The Navy, for example, is currently following orders to murder people on the high seas by presidential order.

hadEnuf

(3,427 posts)
2. Nice way to start Civil War II.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 08:27 AM
Monday

People are starting to have enough of Trump and his fascist brood.

azureblue

(2,581 posts)
4. who does he think he is fooling?
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:11 AM
Monday

We know he will make up one. Just waiting to hear how off the wall that reason will be..

ancianita

(42,300 posts)
6. Non-fiction government organized violence against peaceful citizens.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:23 AM
Monday

They when the government insurrectionists start the violence that citizens finally defend against,
then the felon invokes the insurrection act against the defenders and
spreads the national zone with AI fakes.

FakeNoose

(39,018 posts)
7. He missed his chance, there was a day that Chump could have invoked the Insurrection Act ...
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 10:39 AM
Monday

It was January 6, 2021. So why didn't he?


turbinetree

(26,638 posts)
9. He's having his ultimate wet dream.................from a guy that is a convicted 34 count felon..........
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 11:10 AM
Monday

BumRushDaShow

(161,796 posts)
11. They may try to "blow their wad" early
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 11:24 AM
Monday

although they seem to have some kind of "rough schedule" of implementing chaos during the year. But like toddlers, they don't have the patience of the Chinese who are doing the long-term turning of the screw.

yellow dahlia

(3,555 posts)
15. Yes. They are all parroting the same script.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 01:34 PM
Monday

Flood the zone with propaganda to paint their own picture of an alternative reality.

I too am concerned. I expect they try and instigate.

Indivisible is full on w/ de-escalation training.

Tree Lady

(12,802 posts)
22. I have to go alone this time
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 06:37 PM
Monday

Friend is getting ready for surgery. Think I will be ok though the cops were friendly to us last time. I am down here in southern Oregon and Ice & troops hanging out up north.

maxsolomon

(37,582 posts)
14. Crime is not Insurrection. Insurrection is trying to overthrow the Government.
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 12:36 PM
Monday

Protest, even civil disobedient protest that blocks ICE facility driveways, is not insurrection.

Fighting with Fascist Militias who come into Blue Cities to provoke is not Insurrection.

Young urban men shooting each other over personal disagreements or gang feuds is not Insurrection.

Being Homeless, camping on the streets, and using opiates and meth is not Insurrection.

Defiant shoplifting, stealing cars, even car jackings are not Insurrection.

Mass-murdering Amoklauf shooters are not Insurrection.

GiqueCee

(2,912 posts)
17. It is utterly astounding...
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 02:19 PM
Monday

... that Trump, and the treasonous scum that support him, actually believe that they're going to get away with this. Look at photos of what happened to Mussolini, and take the hint. I sincerely hope that retreating from the cliffs of insanity to preserve our democracy doesn't descend into any more violence than the Right-wing assholes have already inflicted on society, but if it does, it will end badly for them. Very badly indeed.
That also applies to the billionaires that instigated and funded this shitshow and think they're untouchable.
This has to be stopped, and strongly worded letters ain't gonna do shit.

Beartracks

(14,161 posts)
18. To quell "IMAGINARY domestic unrest"...
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 04:00 PM
Monday

Apparently Democrats exercising First Amendment rights is "terrorism" to Republicans.

The Republican party, and the Trump regime in particular, is everything that Republicans have ever warned us about concerning government tyranny.

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Initech

(106,552 posts)
20. What domestic unrest? People don't like his shitty ICE goons destroying lives, communities, and families?
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 05:35 PM
Monday

Based on the "big lie" about immigrants? WTF. He can go get royally fucked.

ShazzieB

(21,783 posts)
21. Vance should be ashamed of himself. 😡😠🤬
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 06:00 PM
Monday

He has completely sold out and is now as much Trump's toady, sycophant, and lickspittle we every other clown in that corrupt administration.

I suppose that's not really new, but I feel like the lies he spewed on Meet the Press today may be a new level of disgusting.

“The president’s looking at all of his options,” he said, adding that “we are talking about this because crime has gotten out of control in our cities”.

What a gigantic, bold faced lie this is! Crime is NOT out of control in our cities, you lying, misogynist couch fucker! Crime has been going DOWN in our cities, as I am SURE you know perfectly well. It's embarrassing to watch you crawl on your belly to tell lies for that deranged would-be dictator! YOU. SHOULD. BE. ASHAMED.

GAH! He makes me sick! BOTH of them, the couch fucker and his corrupt, demented boss, make me incandescent with RAGE!!!


struggle4progress

(124,926 posts)
23. "They're dressing up in inflatable frog costumes and arguing with us!
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 07:23 PM
Monday

Isn't there some way to nuke those cities?"

Klarkashton

(4,353 posts)
27. They intend to pull some really horrible shit on the
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 08:04 PM
Monday

Public that will require brute force repression.

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