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Mr. Jinx

(1,390 posts)
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:06 PM Saturday

Eternal flame at Martin Luther King Jr.'s Atlanta burial site vandalized

Last edited Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:49 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: Yahoo News

A man is facing charges after damaging the eternal flame at Martin Luther King Jr.'s burial site.

Police say Brent Jones, 26, urinated in the reflecting pool and stomped on and broke the eternal flame at the site.

A family visiting the area told Channel 2 Action News that they wanted to visit the burial site, but showed up Saturday morning to find it destroyed.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/eternal-flame-martin-luther-king-172142373.html



Edited at 12:47 p.m. EDT on October 12, 2025, to change the headline from "Eternal flame at Martin Luther King Jr.'s Atlanta burial site destroyed" to "Eternal flame at Martin Luther King Jr.'s Atlanta burial site vandalized," per Yahoo News.
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Eternal flame at Martin Luther King Jr.'s Atlanta burial site vandalized (Original Post) Mr. Jinx Saturday OP
Ignorant... 2naSalit Saturday #1
No, I don't agree with "ignorant" slightlv Saturday #25
Monstrously evil. benfranklin1776 Saturday #27
What even is "Christian" anymore? Queso Delicioso Sunday #45
I hear you... and i hear the frustration. slightlv Sunday #49
I don't think this little peckerwood said he was christian RVN VET71 Sunday #61
I ask that all the time. Brainstormy Sunday #69
"Christian" has a definition. soldierant Sunday #70
"and since he 'no doubt would call himself a Christian"? whathehell Sunday #46
I know where you're coming from slightlv Sunday #48
Definitely not a small number unfortunately! I offer a bit of an antidote.... electric_blue68 Sunday #63
some? jaymac Sunday #53
Bc drumphf gave them "permission" to show their faces electric_blue68 Sunday #60
Read thru the rest of the messages here... slightlv Monday #71
A country destroying itself with hatred and violence. Irish_Dem Saturday #2
Not all of us! AKwannabe Saturday #21
I stand by my comment. Irish_Dem Sunday #50
Sad, but with Trump president and our "role model," I am not surprised that this happened. CTyankee Saturday #3
He gives them all "permission" to act out their worst impulses FakeNoose Saturday #12
Parallel thinking. ananda Saturday #19
"...stopping markodochartaigh Saturday #30
Attitude alfredo Saturday #28
the fish rots from the head DBoon Saturday #33
and unfortunately, Trump was elected as the ''head'!! riversedge Saturday #40
Expect Donnie's doj to prosecute unblock Saturday #4
Trump will probably hire the perpetrator. Irish_Dem Saturday #8
True dat unblock Saturday #11
To pave over it for a terrace with yellow umbrellas. Teacher of the Year Saturday #14
Maga and Trumpism at its finest... wcmagumba Saturday #5
The King Center response is pure class. chowder66 Saturday #6
Can't wait to see how this guy's GoFundMe is gonna do. /s/nt Maine-i-ac Saturday #7
Hate crime. johnp3907 Saturday #9
Yep! Yep! Yep! BurnDoubt Saturday #17
Can't find a picture of the pos..was just curious Deuxcents Saturday #10
No photos posted on the Yahoo or local Atlanta TV websites FakeNoose Saturday #13
Try this one. Kinda surprising what he looks like. RandomNumbers Sunday #65
Here's the arrest report on the Atlanta Police Department website. No photo here either. ificandream Saturday #15
Try here. RandomNumbers Sunday #64
There should be a "Hate Crime" enhancement as an adjunct. BurnDoubt Saturday #16
The orcs are all coming out of their caves now to answer Fat Sauron's beckon call. Efilroft Sul Saturday #18
This! AKwannabe Saturday #22
Fat Sauron and orcs with red baseball caps. Yep. dgauss Saturday #26
Please tell me there are CCTV cameras and that they were working Warpy Saturday #20
Not "destroyed." Grokenstein Saturday #23
I've been there. mountain grammy Saturday #24
We need a gofundme to repair this memorial now, markodochartaigh Saturday #29
Lemme guess: another MAGA lowlife, cowardly turd. Piss on those fucking MAGA turds. SoFlaBro Saturday #31
Sounds like a perfect ICE agent candidate. Gimpyknee Saturday #32
Yeah. Just practicing his patriotism. travelingthrulife Sunday #58
Republucans don't want to bear the guilt of their past atrocities Buddyzbuddy Saturday #34
I hope he gets nailed good for this. Joinfortmill Saturday #35
It's just too bad that Fani Willis won't get to prosecute this son of a bitch. LudwigPastorius Saturday #36
Gee, surveying the last 10 years, I wonder why such an individual would think this is okay... Dem4life1970 Saturday #37
Not only was the attack on a shrine to a very great, inspirational hero and liberator, summer_in_TX Saturday #38
What an asshole. MIButterfly Saturday #39
Given the state of things, I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. Sadly. live love laugh Saturday #41
26 y/o punk wasn't even around when MLK fought for equal rights. Equal rights for ALL of us. Ziggysmom Saturday #42
We are already in a US Civil War. Irish_Dem Sunday #52
"Destroying" or "damaging" ?? the headline differs from the text--- kinda "click-baity"--- Jack Valentino Sunday #43
Is it me, or is it the 20 to 30 year olds that are mostly our bluestarone Sunday #44
Yes males do not have full frontal lobe development until late 20's. Irish_Dem Sunday #51
Well I have always said that, were it not for young adult men... OldBaldy1701E Sunday #54
It seems the frontal lobe in some males... 3catwoman3 Sunday #56
Yes we can see some men who never mature. Irish_Dem Sunday #57
Terrible. H2O Man Sunday #47
Fix it and don't give the asshole any press, just jail. Peace. twodogsbarking Sunday #55
Woah, missd this! FUgly racist bastard! electric_blue68 Sunday #59
This appears to be the arrest photo. Somewhat surprising. RandomNumbers Sunday #66
Oh, surprising. electric_blue68 Sunday #67
Sick idiot. hamsterjill Sunday #62
Mainstream Media: "But the Democrats..." Montauk6 Sunday #68

slightlv

(6,741 posts)
25. No, I don't agree with "ignorant"
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:39 PM
Saturday

He knew exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it. Racist, hateful, hypocritical... since he no doubt would call himself a "christian." But not ignorant. Evil, led by Evil.

Queso Delicioso

(123 posts)
45. What even is "Christian" anymore?
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:48 AM
Sunday

So many people who supposedly adhere to that religion are 180 degrees off what would generally be expected of Christians. And it's basically to the point that the religion has been hijacked; if someone says that they're a Christian I don't expect anything good out of them. I just expect a bunch of bigotry and hate. And if the titular figure of that religion has a problem with that, he sure as fuck hasn't done anything about it.

slightlv

(6,741 posts)
49. I hear you... and i hear the frustration.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 03:31 AM
Sunday

Look, I feel it, too... and I'm not even Christian. What these people have done to Faith hits many of us and casts us into our own dark nights of soul. After all that has been allowed to happen in this world, and what is happening right now, im to the point I don't believe in any creator God anymore. Or maybe S/He just gave up on all of us and are waiting for us to wipe the planet clean of us.

I take comfort in ritual... but it feels so hollow now. I had a friend who once described himself as an agnostic pagan. I couldn't make sense of it then, but im coming around to seeing what he meant.

I feel like the ground has been ripped from under our feet and the sky set on fire. What is good, moral, caring and kind is denigrated and much of it illegal in some states. Saying and knowing that feels as unnatural as saying water isn't wet. If I were 40 years younger I might be able to take a different view, but this close to the Veil, well... its unsettling to say the least.

RVN VET71

(3,072 posts)
61. I don't think this little peckerwood said he was christian
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:15 PM
Sunday

He's a young, racist, stupid as the day's long fucking punk. I hope he's charged with a felony, found guilty, and sent to a prison where the African American inmates may be wanting to speak Jesus to him.

Brainstormy

(2,500 posts)
69. I ask that all the time.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 05:52 PM
Sunday

I cant even understand how Christians themselves would define it today

soldierant

(9,031 posts)
70. "Christian" has a definition.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 07:56 PM
Sunday

It means a person who does their best to comply with the instructions of Jesus as recorded on the gospels and at least to some degree as recorded in the book of the Acts of the Apostles (which is where I find passages which appear to address and command the acceptance of anyone who is "different," including but not limited to gay and trans people).

Yes, the people who are loudest today claiming to be "Christian" are mostly the diametric opposite of that. But you can call yourself anything, and that doesn't make it so. I could call myself Queen of the universe, and nothing would change. I don't because I know I'm not.

Jesus predicted that there would be people who would claim to be especially close to him, even to work miracles in his name, to whom he would have to say "I never knew you." And such people have always been around. At this point in time, there are so many of them, and they are so visible, that it's discouraging, to say the least.

whathehell

(30,285 posts)
46. "and since he 'no doubt would call himself a Christian"?
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:02 AM
Sunday

Huh?...No, sorry, there Is plenty of 'doubt' as to what this person's beliefs (if any) are...Do not go down the road of denigrating a multi-million member religion in this country because of the actions of some of a minority conservative sect.

slightlv

(6,741 posts)
48. I know where you're coming from
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 03:19 AM
Sunday

And normally separate out the... not insignificant sects... which is why I refuse to capitalize the "C" for them.

But they are significant and many, and these kind have infiltrated our govt, and our society in ways seen and unseen at the moment. If you aren't familiar with the NAR, 7 Mountains, or Dominionism look them up. They've been working behind the scenes for decades to turn us into a theocracy of their sect. And they've made strange bedfellows with evangelicals, charismatics, hard core catholic sects like opus dey, and right wing hard core autocratic republicans. My family was part of the church that started all this until we left when the church schismed into two different seats. All my life I've seen it akin to evil wanting power... and when even Sunday school questions were squashed I gave up on it long before I hit puberty. It's not about faith, love, service or the red letter words to them. It's about power... patriarchy... and control. It's about bringing about the destruction of the world to "force" the 2nd coming... like they could force God to do anything?! To me it's a twisted convoluted faith that they actually have no trust in.. else they wouldn't be so afraid God wouldn't do what they want him to do.

For the record, I believe She is mightily pissed off.

Sorry for typos, etc. I'm on my phone and detest these tiny kbs!!! Also for giving the impression I was throwing the baby out with the bath water.

electric_blue68

(24,309 posts)
63. Definitely not a small number unfortunately! I offer a bit of an antidote....
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:30 PM
Sunday

(oh, and I learned abot The Dominionists from either Mike Malloy, or Thom Hartman back in the Air America Radio days)

Anyway look up on You Tube St John the Divine's Blessing of the Animals Mass 2025.
ST J T D is NYC's largest Episcopalian. Liberal, multi-cultural, including women pastors, rabbis, imans have spoken from their pulpit, Native Amrican altar in a side section, and held Indigeous Peoples ceremony on "Columbus" Day, AIDS memorial from way back, The Dali Lama has been there...
Let their empathy, and beauty bring you some joyful spirituality. I'm a spiritual person after giving up my Catholism, and found beautiful comfort going to that space since I found out about them in the '80's.

jaymac

(60 posts)
53. some?
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 06:12 AM
Sunday

some of a minority conservative sect? It sure is way more than a minority sect.......that conservative and scornful bent has permeated throughout the "christian"sect for years. It just feels comfortable enough to show it's face in public nowadays

slightlv

(6,741 posts)
71. Read thru the rest of the messages here...
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 05:02 PM
Monday

And, while not Christian (or christian) myself, I would say not to lump all Christians in with this Maga xtians.

MAGA has created its own religion. It is not Christ's... and the Christ I studied for many decades would be appalled at what is being done in His name, IMO. I kinda agree with Gandhi (I think he said, paraphrasing)... I have nothing against your Christ, but your christians scare me.

The only way I've been able to make peace with it is by separating them into 2 different religions... because they are 2 separate religions. Even the scripture called for in churches at sermons are different; one drawn from the New Testament; the Magas from the punitive YAHWEH Old Testament. Magas want nothing to do with the New Testament, nor Christ. They've even mocked His words in their "revivals" (like Turning Point). And they really can't be for the true Old Testament, because their some of the most anti-semitic people out there. No... they've created a bastardization of the Christian faith and just kept the name. THAT should be what you're really P'O'd with. People who were nominal church goers or calling themselves Christians... and those who might have looked into the faith... turn away from it now as though it's poison. And it's MAGA who is poisoning it.

AKwannabe

(6,841 posts)
21. Not all of us!
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:32 PM
Saturday

Don’t be so damn general.

Call out the fucking people doing this.
Not “a country”! FFS!

CTyankee

(67,254 posts)
3. Sad, but with Trump president and our "role model," I am not surprised that this happened.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:13 PM
Saturday

FakeNoose

(38,995 posts)
12. He gives them all "permission" to act out their worst impulses
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:37 PM
Saturday

Have we really fallen this far?



Why yes ... yes we have.

ananda

(33,596 posts)
19. Parallel thinking.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:31 PM
Saturday

All day it's been on my mind how so many
people are doing such horrendous, criminal
harm to others, at will, without impunity
or remorse.

I think this means that the only thing ever
stopping them was the law and having those
acts condemned

Now that all this has been validated, and there's
nothing to stop them, well...

we get what we get today. It doesn't say much
about human life and society in gerneral, does it?

markodochartaigh

(4,311 posts)
30. "...stopping
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:27 PM
Saturday

them was the law and having those
acts condemned...".
I think that you are correct. Remember after the failed coup attempt, Trump's support among Republicans dropped from about 80% to about 40%. For a few weeks. Then when the Republicans saw that Trump wasn't going to face personal prosecution his approval among Republicans started to rise until it was back up in the 80's. The majority of Republicans don't even care if Trump overturns democracy in the US as long as he doesn't face any consequences. How are those Republicans going to care about anything else?

unblock

(55,693 posts)
4. Expect Donnie's doj to prosecute
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:17 PM
Saturday

anyone who complains about this, calls it racist, or pretty much says anything about it other than praise it.

FakeNoose

(38,995 posts)
13. No photos posted on the Yahoo or local Atlanta TV websites
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:52 PM
Saturday

Unfortunately it's a rather common name so a lot of unrelated photos come up in the Google search window.

ificandream

(11,451 posts)
15. Here's the arrest report on the Atlanta Police Department website. No photo here either.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:15 PM
Saturday

Vandalism Arrest: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Center: 449 Auburn Ave NE
252840379
Post Date:10/11/2025 1:30 PM
Preliminary information: On October 11th, 2025, at approximately 4:30 A.M., officers responded to a report of vandalism at the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Center located at 449 Auburn Ave NE. Upon arrival, officers spoke with security who observed a male suspect urinating in the reflective pool and stomping on the Eternal Flame, causing significant damage. The suspect was identified as 26-year-old Mr. Brent Jones. Mr. Jones was taken into custody and is being charged with Criminal Damage to Property in the 2nd Degree, Criminal Trespass, Public Indecency, and Obstruction of Law Enforcement. Mr. Jones will be transported to the Fulton County Jail.

All arrests and photos are public information. An arrest does not mean that the individual has been or will be convicted of the crime. Individuals on this press release/post/video are presumed innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.

Please keep in mind that the information released is preliminary in nature and could change as the investigation progresses or new information comes to light.

Link: https://www.atlantapd.org/Home/Components/News/News/7605/71

BurnDoubt

(1,117 posts)
16. There should be a "Hate Crime" enhancement as an adjunct.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:21 PM
Saturday

And, he should certainly be pissed upon. Daily would be fine.

Warpy

(114,038 posts)
20. Please tell me there are CCTV cameras and that they were working
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:32 PM
Saturday

It was probably punk kids who think they wannabe Klanners when they grow up.

I'd like to see them grow up in jail.

Grokenstein

(6,173 posts)
23. Not "destroyed."
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:35 PM
Saturday

That quote from the article is accurate but the headline says "vandalized" and there's also this:

A representative from The King Center issued the following statement: “The King Center is aware of a minor incident that occurred near the Eternal Flame. While there was minimal damage to the Eternal Flame and the surrounding area, The King Center remains fully open to visitors. The Eternal Flame still burns with love, and we continue to welcome everyone with open arms and gratitude for the incredible support of our beloved community. The dream lives on.”

markodochartaigh

(4,311 posts)
29. We need a gofundme to repair this memorial now,
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:21 PM
Saturday

Last edited Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:57 PM - Edit history (1)

and maybe hire a 24/7 guard.


Edit: I don't see a gofundme but the King Center does have a donation page:

https://thekingcenter.org/donate-now/

Buddyzbuddy

(1,683 posts)
34. Republucans don't want to bear the guilt of their past atrocities
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:01 PM
Saturday

so they try to erase history and yet they continue to perpetrate crimes against minorities.

FIX YOUR PRESENT BEHAVIOR BEFORE TRYING TO ERASE THE PAST!

Republicans, you own this a-hole and everyone of these racist a-holes, including the whole Adminstration. Leave the party if you don't want to be included.

Republican=Racist

Dem4life1970

(986 posts)
37. Gee, surveying the last 10 years, I wonder why such an individual would think this is okay...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:25 PM
Saturday

...it is truly a mystery.

summer_in_TX

(3,870 posts)
38. Not only was the attack on a shrine to a very great, inspirational hero and liberator,
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:30 PM
Saturday

it was an attack on democracy.

King modeled the values of Christ, yes, but also of democracy. Peaceful advocacy for change in order to bring about that More Perfect Union. The Beloved Community.

Ziggysmom

(3,933 posts)
42. 26 y/o punk wasn't even around when MLK fought for equal rights. Equal rights for ALL of us.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:47 PM
Saturday

It’s like we’re headed toward another Civil War! This one will be red vs blue. Almighty creator have mercy on us.

Irish_Dem

(76,218 posts)
52. We are already in a US Civil War.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 05:33 AM
Sunday

When Texas sent armed troops to Illinois it was the start of the war.

Jack Valentino

(3,584 posts)
43. "Destroying" or "damaging" ?? the headline differs from the text--- kinda "click-baity"---
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:05 AM
Sunday

And YES, either one is a sad commentary on the
'state of our nation'....... but not much of a surprise, at this point in time


bluestarone

(20,488 posts)
44. Is it me, or is it the 20 to 30 year olds that are mostly our
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:42 AM
Sunday

Problem child TERRORISTS? Just seems like that age group are the dangerous ones.

Irish_Dem

(76,218 posts)
51. Yes males do not have full frontal lobe development until late 20's.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 05:32 AM
Sunday

In males, the frontal lobe, particularly the prefrontal cortex, tends to reach full maturity later than in females, with development continuing into the mid- to late-20s.

The frontal lobe is responsible for the progression of executive functions like decision-making, emotional regulation, and impulse control.

So if you pair this with huge amounts of testosterone during puberty and all the societal messages about males, power, violence, it is a recipe for disaster.

There are so many examples for this, we just take it for granted that young males
are potentially dangerous. We give them a pass, boys will be boys excuses.

One small example. I read an interesting study about US Air Force pilot training, and gender differences. The males tend to wreck and damage more airplanes than women. Women are more careful and responsible, men are more reckless and risk taking.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,318 posts)
54. Well I have always said that, were it not for young adult men...
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 07:59 AM
Sunday

Those 'Fail Army' videos would come out twice a year and would be about ninety seconds long.

Irish_Dem

(76,218 posts)
57. Yes we can see some men who never mature.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 09:08 AM
Sunday

They are stuck in the toddler or adolescent stage.

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