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BumRushDaShow

(161,589 posts)
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 03:09 PM Friday

Trump Admin Sparks MAGA Fury With Qatari Air Force Base in US--'Betrayed'

Source: Newsweek

Oct 10, 2025 at 12:59 PM EDT


Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced on Friday that the U.S. has greenlit the establishment of a Qatari Emiri Air Force facility in Idaho, a move that has drawn backlash from some of the administration’s closest Make America Great Again (MAGA) allies, with Laura Loomer saying, "I have never felt more betrayed by the GOP," over the move.

Steve Bannon, former White House chief strategist during President Donald Trump's first term and architect of the MAGA movement, told Newsweek in a text message, "There should never be a military base of a foreign power on the sacred soil of America.” Newsweek has reached out to Qatar's government communication office for comment via email on Friday.

Why It Matters

The administration's announcement shocked the MAGA core base, who have applauded the president on his "America First" agenda. The agreement states an Idaho air base will "host a contingent of Qatari F-15s and pilots." The move comes months after Trump accepted a Qatari luxury jet, which drew criticism from both Democrats and Republicans, including from Loomer.

It also comes as the U.S. is working with mediators in the region to put an end to the Israel Hamas war. Qatar has been a longtime ally of the U.S. and hosts key CENTCOM military operations at Al-Udeid Air Base near Doha.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-admin-sparks-maga-fury-with-qatari-air-force-base-in-us-betrayed-10862415

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Trump Admin Sparks MAGA Fury With Qatari Air Force Base in US--'Betrayed' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Friday OP
Idiots... wcmagumba Friday #1
Post removed Post removed Friday #3
Still a stupid idea, Dem or Thug...IMO wcmagumba Friday #5
You keep posting this. Have a link/proof? awesomerwb1 Friday #11
Article from 2022 Abnredleg Friday #13
That is different. Biden didn't propose a foreign base here. yardwork Friday #25
They're building a training facility at Mountain Home AFB Abnredleg Friday #31
Show me a foreign military facility on American soil. yardwork Friday #33
Sure there is Abnredleg Friday #36
We have, or used to have, COL Mustard Friday #49
it's fairly common Lithos Friday #52
Thanks, Lithos. yardwork Saturday #59
From what I've read, this Qatari facility is different from the slightlv Saturday #62
The DoD clarified what Hegseth mumbled through Lithos Yesterday #63
Then why have they not mentioned the DLI? slightlv 2 hrs ago #64
DLI Defense Language Institute Lithos 1 hr ago #66
At least under the Air Force, when I was in and when I was an assistant liaison officer, slightlv 1 hr ago #67
DT was president when this project started cyranodequixote Friday #53
Post removed Post removed Friday #19
Calm down. The poster is wrong. yardwork Friday #26
Dump sold them the jets and made the base promise in 2017 -- Stop trying to hang this on Biden Ponietz Friday #29
This will not end well UpInArms Friday #2
It's common to create training units in the US as part of plane sales Abnredleg Friday #4
I was referring to the MAGAt fallout UpInArms Friday #7
That's different from giving them their own base on our soil. yardwork Friday #27
They're constructing a training facility on a US base Abnredleg Friday #30
I've never heard of letting another country built their own base on our soil. yardwork Friday #32
They are not building their own base Abnredleg Friday #37
You are correct orangecrush Saturday #60
you seem very vested in sane-explaining this Skittles Saturday #57
Poor magats imagine planes flying into Paul Bunyan. C_U_L8R Friday #6
I would not oppose a British, Canadian or French military base in the U.S. Justice Brandeis Friday #8
And Qatar will lease it out to WHOM? Russia? Captain Zero Friday #16
Its not a base - its a training detachment on an US base Abnredleg Friday #17
That's not what Hegseth said. yardwork Friday #28
Facility as in hangars and admin offices Abnredleg Friday #38
The lack of trust in chump is clear! BidenRocks Friday #41
This is a routine training package Abnredleg Friday #43
I saw the same thing when I went to my son's Air Force BMT graduation at Lackland... WarGamer Saturday #56
What it does equal is an another solid/decent messaging opportunity for the opposition. BannonsLiver Saturday #61
That depends on what the definition of the word "is" is Justice Brandeis 37 min ago #68
Qatar is a US ally. Its Al Udeid Air Base host's the USCENTCOM Forward Headquarters and many US units 24601 1 hr ago #65
MAGAts really thought Trump was getting a gold jet for free? Mawspam2 Friday #9
There he is, MAGAts.... Mr. America... Blue Owl Friday #10
What the Mofo FUCK !?! Captain Zero Friday #12
It has nothing to do with the jet Abnredleg Friday #18
OK... and how many betrayals does this make now? ananda Friday #14
I have to hope they'll never be loaded with weapons underpants Friday #15
Qatar has been a big Hamas supporter RussBLib Friday #20
Biden negotiated it? Now, Trump approves it. Norrrm Friday #21
The deal dates back to 2017 speak easy Friday #23
Trump 2017: 'Qatar is a funder of terrorism'- Trump DoD in 2025: 'We're building a Qatari Air Force facility in the US' Norrrm Friday #22
Didn't Bin Laden start his 'holy war' against the U.S. due to troops in Saudi Arabia? joanbarnes Friday #24
It's in a very red state Bluestocking Friday #34
Singapore has been at that base for years IronLionZion Friday #35
Foreign Military On Our Soil? GregGilman Friday #39
Foreign military F-15 training by Boeing contractors ON a US military base. NOT giving Qatar their own land for a base. ancianita Friday #40
Quid Pro Quo! BidenRocks Friday #42
In other news, Russian military will now be in charge of maintaining Buddyzbuddy Friday #44
Click bait EX500rider Friday #45
The issue to focus on is the MAGat split BumRushDaShow Friday #46
A lot of living and learning, going on for MAGArats. republianmushroom Friday #47
Devil's Advocate bmichaelh Friday #48
That's what Neo Nazi Traitor is About.. Cha Friday #50
Wow, the Republican casino hustler really suckered the Margas BoRaGard Friday #51
Sounds like a great idea! Old Testament Libera Saturday #54
BUT OF COURSE Jimvanhise Saturday #55
We shouldn't let the facts prevent us from pouring fuel on the MAGA outrage fire. sop Saturday #58

Response to wcmagumba (Reply #1)

yardwork

(68,300 posts)
25. That is different. Biden didn't propose a foreign base here.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:30 PM
Friday

Biden proposed having soldiers train on OUR base. Thats quite common.

You're spreading misinformation.

Abnredleg

(1,218 posts)
31. They're building a training facility at Mountain Home AFB
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:36 PM
Friday

It will likely be right next to the training facilities built for the Singapore Air Force that has been in operation for years. We’ve done this before with different nations over the past few decades as it is a common piece of any major aircraft sale.

Abnredleg

(1,218 posts)
36. Sure there is
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:49 PM
Friday

Singapore has a facility at Mountain Home AFB for F15 training. They’ve just announced that they will do their F35 training in Arkansas. The Qatar agreement is essentially a copy of what Singapore is doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/428th_Fighter_Squadron

Germany, of course, has had training facilities in the US since the mid-1950s, and their army had a permanently training facility at Fort Bliss for decades.

https://www.holloman.af.mil/About/Units/German-Air-Force/

To be clear, there are no independent foreign bases in the US. What I am talking about are long term training facilities on existing US bases. You will note that the Qatar announcement speaks of “facilities”, not bases.

COL Mustard

(7,661 posts)
49. We have, or used to have,
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 09:40 PM
Friday

German pilots come to the US for pilot training in New Mexico. Other German troops have come here for artillery training, including Patriot missile operation & repair.

Lithos

(26,585 posts)
52. it's fairly common
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 10:55 PM
Friday

The Germans had a permanent training facility at Holloman AFB. They and a few others had long term training facilities at Ft. Bliss in order to attend the PATRIOT missile school.

The UK has long term facilities and programs on US bases all over the US.

The important part is these are still sovereign US territory and part of the various military schools for training specific skills.

yardwork

(68,300 posts)
59. Thanks, Lithos.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:17 AM
Saturday

I trust your information. Is this facility for Qatar essentially the same as the other models?

One immediate difference that comes to mind is that the Germans capitulated to us after WWII. We have bases in Germany. I assume the training programs we hosted for German soldiers were part of the post WWII, Cold War NATO arrangements. And Britain is a longtime trusted ally.

In this day and age it makes me uneasy to give Qatar a training facility on US soil. I'm far from an isolationist but....

slightlv

(6,680 posts)
62. From what I've read, this Qatari facility is different from the
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:15 PM
Saturday

programs already in force here in the U.S. Many, many countries have training agreements with the U.S. where groups of their military come here for training. They have liaison offices and training offices on the bases. But the Base is still an American base, and the foreign country is a guest of the host country and base. Not the other way around. My first working contract after my divorce and separation from the AF, was all written in Arabic, in fact. I worked for one of the Saudi Liaison offices at what used to be known as Lackland AFB. We were under the aegis of both the host country (U.S.) and the Embassies of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, out of Washington D.C. We did NOT own Lackland. From everything I've read so far (and I've read quite a bit, which I admit even I can see slants and angles in the writing) have Qatar owning the base instead of it being owned by the Host Country.

Like I said, I worked for the Embassies... not Lackland. We kept to the Arabic calendar. I've also worked as a DoD Civilian in creating training materials that were used in some of these classes... of course, this was decades after my work at Lackland.

I was also stationed at Lackland AFB as permanent party when I served in the Air Force. What I've read so far has my hackles up, ears pricked, and every hair on my arm standing straight out from my body, as a Veteran. I hate to call common cause with such a traitor and hater as Loomer, but I, too, call this a betrayal. And I see NO good coming out of it. I DO see it as a payoff, probably for trumps building in Qatar. IMO, it will always revolve around trump's money and power, no matter what the situation is. We all agree his whole life is lived on a transactional basis. We'll be lucky if we still own most of the country by the time he's done using at as an AirBnB.

Lithos

(26,585 posts)
63. The DoD clarified what Hegseth mumbled through
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:09 PM
Yesterday
https://apnews.com/article/idaho-qatar-us-air-force-base-fc1506584e7833dbde3e16fe8613b6b4

It's a training facility, not a base, and is comparable to what the Singaporeans have.

“What we expect is it to be squadron operations and hangars for the F-15QA, because that’s the Qatari version of the jet that they bought through foreign military sales,” Air Force spokesperson Ann Stefanek said. “It is definitely still a U.S. Air Force base.”

In fact, on-site training agreements with allies are common in the U.S. The Republic of Singapore 428th Fighter Squadron Buccaneers have been hosted at the base since 2008. German forces trained at the Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico for decades. New facilities to train international F-35 fighter pilots were completed at Ebbing Air Force Base in Arkansas last year.


....

Security at the base will continue to be handled by U.S. Air Force personnel, she said, and anyone going to the base will still have to show the proper credentials in order to enter.


The phrasing of this was definitely mismanaged by Kegsbreath.

L-

slightlv

(6,680 posts)
64. Then why have they not mentioned the DLI?
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 04:54 PM
2 hrs ago

If it's just a "training facility" it would fall under the DLI umbrella.

Lithos

(26,585 posts)
66. DLI Defense Language Institute
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 05:44 PM
1 hr ago

if that is what you mean, then no - that is a specific function which is focused on language and not arms training.

L-

slightlv

(6,680 posts)
67. At least under the Air Force, when I was in and when I was an assistant liaison officer,
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 05:55 PM
1 hr ago

ALL foreign training was under the main department of the DLI. True, after graduating from DLI classes, some went to other training bases, but they were still all registered DLI.

Army calls it something else... and although I worked with them for over 10 years, I'll be damned if I can pull the name out of my head right now. But it was the same type of thing... they came first under the language and war college training, and then on to other posts for further training. I likened it to joining the AF, going to basic, and then going to your tech school afterwards. But you were still tracked by where you went to Basic.

While I was liaison while at Lackland, I was DoD while creating lessons and curriculum for the War College. There were entire lessons and units that were not available for those who were here from foreign countries. Even vignette scenarios had to be carefully constructed so as not to resemble too closely anything that had happened and might be classified -- even if it had been in the news media for ages. THAT one I thought was pretty dumb... but, then, who was I? Just a coder... (LOL)

cyranodequixote

(4 posts)
53. DT was president when this project started
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 11:23 PM
Friday

@Abnredleg
From the article you posted:
"The Qatar project dates to 2017 when the United States inked a $12 billion deal that gave Qatar "36 aircraft, their associated weapons systems, U.S.-based training, maintenance support equipment and logistics support," according to The Air Force Times"

Read more at: https://www.stripes.com/branches/air_force/2022-01-18/deal-qatar-air-rorce-members-idaho-base-4330963.html
Source - Stars and Stripes

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yardwork

(68,300 posts)
26. Calm down. The poster is wrong.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:30 PM
Friday

Read the article. Biden never proposed hosting a foreign military base in the U.S.

Ponietz

(4,089 posts)
29. Dump sold them the jets and made the base promise in 2017 -- Stop trying to hang this on Biden
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:33 PM
Friday

Biden slow-walked it. Your post is misleading.

Abnredleg

(1,218 posts)
4. It's common to create training units in the US as part of plane sales
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 03:16 PM
Friday

Singapore also has a training squadron at the same base.

Abnredleg

(1,218 posts)
30. They're constructing a training facility on a US base
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:33 PM
Friday

It will likely be right next to the training facility built for the Singapore Air Force that has been in operation for a number of years.

yardwork

(68,300 posts)
32. I've never heard of letting another country built their own base on our soil.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:37 PM
Friday

That is quite different from inviting soldiers from other countries to train on our own bases, under our control and jurisdiction.

Will we have full access to this facility? Who will have control over it? Will they have the right to invite other nations to send their own military? I mean, WTAF?

This is quite different from the training that Biden proposed. Please stop conflating the two. You're upsetting people. And distracting from something terrible that Trump is doing.

Abnredleg

(1,218 posts)
37. They are not building their own base
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:58 PM
Friday

they are building a training facility at Mountain Home AFB.

orangecrush

(26,991 posts)
60. You are correct
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:23 AM
Saturday

From Google AI -

"Key details about the planned facility in Idaho:
Location: The facility will be located at the Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho.
Purpose: It will host a contingent of Qatari pilots and F-15 fighter jets for advanced training alongside the U.S. Air Force to improve military cooperation. The location's desert landscape is similar to Qatar's, making it a suitable training ground.
Ownership and control: The facility will be built within the U.S. air base and will remain under U.S. jurisdiction and control. This is a standard arrangement for foreign military training on U.S. soil.
Funding: The Qatari government will fully fund the construction and operational expenses for the facility.
Context: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and other officials confirmed the agreement on October 10, 2025. The announcement drew some backlash online from those who mistakenly believed Qatar was establishing its own base."

And we have some similar training with many countries.

Trump's being bribed by Quatar is a separate matter.

Skittles

(168,033 posts)
57. you seem very vested in sane-explaining this
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:59 AM
Saturday

I don't trust ANYTHING coming from Cadet Bonespurs Donald Fucking Trump and his rapist sidekick Kegseth.

Justice Brandeis

(334 posts)
8. I would not oppose a British, Canadian or French military base in the U.S.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 03:21 PM
Friday

But yeah, not Qatar. They are not our friends.

Abnredleg

(1,218 posts)
17. Its not a base - its a training detachment on an US base
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 03:33 PM
Friday

Singapore also has a training detachment at the same base.

yardwork

(68,300 posts)
28. That's not what Hegseth said.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:32 PM
Friday

You're confusing two things. Hegseth said Qatar would their own "facility" in Idaho. That's a first and Biden certainly did NOT propose that.

Abnredleg

(1,218 posts)
38. Facility as in hangars and admin offices
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 05:03 PM
Friday

that will be built at Mountain Home AFB. Just like the Singapore AF training facility at Mountain Home. You can't host training without infrastructure - ie. facilities.

Facility does not equal base.

Abnredleg

(1,218 posts)
43. This is a routine training package
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 07:09 PM
Friday

But I understand the reaction given that Trump is a grifter.

WarGamer

(18,008 posts)
56. I saw the same thing when I went to my son's Air Force BMT graduation at Lackland...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 01:17 AM
Saturday

Lots of foreign pilots who yes, have their own facilities.

BannonsLiver

(19,738 posts)
61. What it does equal is an another solid/decent messaging opportunity for the opposition.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 11:31 AM
Saturday

That Trump is allowing foreign countries to build military facilities in the U.S. The “wElL aCTUAlLy!11” crap is another example of why we lose.

Blue Owl

(57,602 posts)
10. There he is, MAGAts.... Mr. America...
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 03:24 PM
Friday

The fat, makeup-clad clown prince of corruption who you zealously elected into office so he could fucking DESTROY America and the democracy for which it once stood.

This is all on you gullible marks who fell for the con man's slick trickery.

You all make this possible, MAGA.

Not just for your own stupid selves, but for the rest of us who now have to live under this oppressive bullshit.

Fuck all of you with tRump's tiny shit-covered micropenis.

Captain Zero

(8,497 posts)
12. What the Mofo FUCK !?!
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 03:30 PM
Friday

So the jet wasn't so free.
And now neither are we.

HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE IMMEDIATELY !!

RIP HIS FAT ASS OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE NOW!!

underpants

(193,449 posts)
15. I have to hope they'll never be loaded with weapons
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 03:32 PM
Friday

Right? RIGHT?

One rogue F-15 pilot could do a lot of damage

RussBLib

(10,245 posts)
20. Qatar has been a big Hamas supporter
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 03:39 PM
Friday

...and Israel selectively bombed Qatar back on 5 Sept.

And now this? Something stinks pretty badly here.

Norrrm

(3,112 posts)
22. Trump 2017: 'Qatar is a funder of terrorism'- Trump DoD in 2025: 'We're building a Qatari Air Force facility in the US'
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:03 PM
Friday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220711851

Trump 2017: 'Qatar is a funder of terrorism'- Trump DoD in 2025: 'We're building a Qatari Air Force facility in the US'

IronLionZion

(50,076 posts)
35. Singapore has been at that base for years
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 04:41 PM
Friday

The US sells jets to other countries so they send their pilots here for training. There are pilots from plenty of other countries like Saudi Arabia, UK, Germany, and more here in US air bases.

I'm here for the MAGA heads exploding with hate.

But DUers shouldn't worry too much about having foreign air force pilots on US air bases. That's been happening for a very long time. Newsweek is trying to evoke an emotional reaction with their headline and reporting.

GregGilman

(16 posts)
39. Foreign Military On Our Soil?
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 05:08 PM
Friday

Qatar gave Trump a big shiny plane.
Now it’s payback. Let me explain:
He’s giving Qatar a base in Idaho!
A horrific deal to feed his sick ego.

ancianita

(42,267 posts)
40. Foreign military F-15 training by Boeing contractors ON a US military base. NOT giving Qatar their own land for a base.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 06:42 PM
Friday

Training (which includes housing, food, etc) only. Not land for a base. WE own the base. They're just training on our base. See the difference?

EX500rider

(12,036 posts)
45. Click bait
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 07:22 PM
Friday

They will have training facilities on a US base like other countries who buy US jets with a training package included in the price

BumRushDaShow

(161,589 posts)
46. The issue to focus on is the MAGat split
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 08:02 PM
Friday

I.e., those who are extreme "isolationists" and want no part of the rest of the world (nor want the U.S. involved in such), including refusing to promote the neocon "spreading democracy around the world" thing that PNAC pushed for.

Then there is the other side where you have psycho lackeys who bob and weave back and forth to whatever hypnotist pendulum is swung in front of their faces.

bmichaelh

(1,000 posts)
48. Devil's Advocate
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 09:33 PM
Friday

It appears that Trump does not have a Devil's Advocate in his administration.

Someone to challenge him by providing the downside of a specific decision.

Other administrations have used someone in that role.

Trump is using yes men and yes women.

This is bad because Trump is not the brightest one in the room.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
51. Wow, the Republican casino hustler really suckered the Margas
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 10:30 PM
Friday

As usual. The MAGATs really need to stop sleeping through the billionaire butt reaming they are getting. Go woke, or go broke. The Republican billionaires have no respect for you. You are just their convenient suckers in waiting.

Jimvanhise

(529 posts)
55. BUT OF COURSE
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:55 AM
Saturday

When Trump has to flee America after he is exposed in the Epstein files, a foreign base will be his perfect jumping off place to flee to a nation where he can live out his life in luxury.

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