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riversedge

(78,340 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:18 AM Wednesday

The Unofficial Jobs Numbers Are In and It's Rough Out There

Source: msn


Konrad Putzier • 1h • 3 min read

A host of alternative jobs data from Wall Street are pointing in the same direction: The U.S. labor market is losing steam.

These numbers are getting more attention while the federal government shutdown keeps the lights off at the Bureau of Labor Statistics, delaying new data in an unsettled time for the jobs market.

In the federal data void, Bank of America this week said it is seeing signs of rising unemployment and slowing job growth in its customers’ data. Private-equity company Carlyle Group, extrapolating from companies in which it owns stakes, said Tuesday that it thinks overall U.S. jobs growth slid in September from an already weak official reading in August. Goldman Sachs said its measure of labor-market tightness fell last month back to levels seen in 2015, indicating a tough landscape for job seekers.

These follow a report from payroll processor ADP last week that said U.S. employers shed private-sector jobs last month.

These and other alternative data sources have their drawbacks—they often only cover a small share of the labor force and using them to estimate the state of the broader job market can be tricky. These numbers don’t always match with government data, though the government numbers themselves have seen some steep revisions lately as the BLS struggles with falling response rates to its surveys................













Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-unofficial-jobs-numbers-are-in-and-it-s-rough-out-there/ar-AA1O4syQ?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=68e6444e01ce4d948d1e921e2ece9ba3&ei=15



I am in the mode of buying essentials ONLY last since last spring.

“The employment numbers have clearly deteriorated,” said Jake Oubina, senior economist at Piper Sandler. Profit margins are down because of tariffs, and that makes companies less likely to hire, he said.


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The Unofficial Jobs Numbers Are In and It's Rough Out There (Original Post) riversedge Wednesday OP
empty stomachs make for angry people. Javaman Wednesday #1
I buy essentials as well. ProudMNDemocrat Wednesday #2
We have the dumbest business leadership in this country. A kid could have told travelingthrulife Wednesday #3
These alternatives Timewas Wednesday #4
It is getting difficult to trust lots of agencies in the Fed Gov since last January!! riversedge Wednesday #5
Only one way Timewas Wednesday #7
Reminds me of when I was in the recruiting biz Bayard Wednesday #6
That happened during COVID-19 too n/t TexasBushwhacker Thursday #8

Javaman

(64,637 posts)
1. empty stomachs make for angry people.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:57 AM
Wednesday

the rest of this year will be the same if not worse.

the control freak moron repuke maga's think they have it all under control, when they clearly do not.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,313 posts)
2. I buy essentials as well.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:37 AM
Wednesday

I recently bought new running/walking shoes that I last bought 16 months ago. I walk a lot.

During the 7 weekends of the Minnesota Renaissance Festival, I spent less than $80 on Artisan purchases because I have much of what I need. I had cash for tips for performers and something to eat. I did purchase a Season Pass for 2026. Joy is important during these dark times ahead.

I need some new clothes, of which I can make. I have not bought much over the past several years because what I guy lasts so long. I spend money more wisely now since my husband died. I have trips planned for Georgia and Hawaii to visit friends and my son. I eat out a few times a month as well down in the dining room where I live. My Grocery shopping is basic for what I need to stay healthy. I do not buy snacks or foods I can no longer eat. What I do buy is getting more costly.

Donald Trump is responsible for all that is happening here. Republicans supporting him are responsible as well.

travelingthrulife

(3,480 posts)
3. We have the dumbest business leadership in this country. A kid could have told
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 10:01 AM
Wednesday

them this would happen.

Timewas

(2,542 posts)
7. Only one way
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 10:52 PM
Wednesday

I just flat do nt believe anything that comes out of Washington that has anything to do with the current whitehouse occupant.Anything any rethug says is a lie

Bayard

(27,383 posts)
6. Reminds me of when I was in the recruiting biz
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 12:21 PM
Wednesday

When 9/11 happened, companies just stopped hiring. They weren't sure of what was happening, or what was going to happen. Lots of people in my business went out of business.

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