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BumRushDaShow

(162,581 posts)
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:00 AM Sep 27

U.S. Military Is Struggling to Deploy AI Weapons

Source: msn/WSJ

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An ambitious Pentagon plan to field thousands of cutting-edge drones to prepare for a potential conflict with China has fallen short of its goal, and the military has struggled to figure out how to use some of the systems in the field, according to people familiar with the matter. The effort, launched two years ago as a way to quickly buy low-cost autonomous weapons to counter China’s growing military capabilities, is now being shifted to a new organization over concerns it isn’t moving fast enough, the people said.

The move reflects frustrations over setbacks in the program known as Replicator, a signature effort of the Biden administration’s Pentagon that aimed to deliver thousands of air-, land-, and sea-based AI systems by August 2025. Then-Deputy Defense Secretary Kathleen Hicks announced the program in 2023 with the promise of technology that would be “small, smart, cheap.”

While Hicks requested $1 billion over two years for Replicator, some lawmakers have called for billions of dollars more in spending, arguing the total needs to be far higher to ensure success.

Some Replicator systems have been unreliable, or were so expensive or slow to be manufactured they couldn’t be bought in the quantity needed, according to people familiar with the matter. The Pentagon has also struggled to find software that can successfully control large numbers of drones, made by different companies, working in coordination to find and potentially strike a target—a key to making the Replicator vision work.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/us-military-is-struggling-to-deploy-ai-weapons/ar-AA1NoiNK



I don't know why they had this fantasy that this tech was somehow "mature". Seems someone was sold a bill of goods.
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U.S. Military Is Struggling to Deploy AI Weapons (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 27 OP
Its mature IbogaProject Sep 27 #1
There's a difference between guidng drones BumRushDaShow Sep 27 #2
Drones in Ukraine littlemissmartypants Sep 27 #5
But they are still not the same as what the Pentagon has been attempting BumRushDaShow Sep 27 #7
All autonomous means is not under direct control. littlemissmartypants Sep 27 #8
Attempting to use "AI" for "autonomous vehicles BumRushDaShow Sep 27 #10
Hegseth with the largest budget in the world saw a drone show replacement for a littlemissmartypants Sep 27 #11
I guess he was in a drunken stupor when this happened BumRushDaShow Sep 27 #12
Look at this! littlemissmartypants Sep 28 #13
Unless TACO blocks it BumRushDaShow Sep 28 #14
Maybe the AI keeps responding, "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave." thesquanderer Sep 27 #3
A STRANGE GAME. THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY.. DBoon Sep 27 #4
Meanwhile in China FredGarvin Sep 27 #6
Totally awesome Bayard Sep 27 #9
The warrior ethos at work Prairie Gates Sep 28 #15

IbogaProject

(5,301 posts)
1. Its mature
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:21 AM
Sep 27

Have you followed the recent details of the Ukraine war? Drones have totally altered the battlefield. Mo

BumRushDaShow

(162,581 posts)
2. There's a difference between guidng drones
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:45 AM
Sep 27

and deploying "AI" in the types of sophisticated system the article is talking about.

Ukraine has been making amazing use out of those tiny "quadcopters", NOT the full "airplane-sized drones".

littlemissmartypants

(30,743 posts)
5. Drones in Ukraine
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:36 AM
Sep 27

Ukraine has used the Bayraktar TB2, First-person view drones (FPV), the Dart 350 Sea Baby which they designed and produce, the Magura V5, which are employed for naval operations, Long-Range Attack Drones, modified commercial drones, the DJI Mavic and there are reports of new FPV drones that can operate over 100 kilometers and are resistant to electronic warfare jamming.

The growth of the drone manufacturing sector in Ukraine has been significant, with around 500 manufacturers compared to seven at the beginning of the war.

They also have a citizen sourced drone manufacturing system that uses everyday people who have 3D printers who manufacture drone components that are sent to centralized military facilities for assembly.

I know this based on reading about the war and having seen videos by Ukrainian and USA journalists on the subject.

Additional information:
https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia-ukraine-drone-war-innovation-frontlines-and-beyond

Hegseth's "war department" could definitely benefit from the knowledge but if I was the Ukrainian military, I'd never trust the USA again.

BumRushDaShow

(162,581 posts)
7. But they are still not the same as what the Pentagon has been attempting
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:51 AM
Sep 27
https://www.diu.mil/replicator

I.e., they want completely "autonomous".

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-09/pentagon-s-drone-initiative-called-alive-and-well-under-trump

(snip)

Among the Replicator systems selected and disclosed so far are AeroVironment’s anti-armor Switchblade 600, Anduril Industries’ reconnaissance and attack drone Ghost-X, and Performance Drone Works’ C-100. The Pentagon also has selected seven companies to provide software support for Replicator’s autonomy and command and control but hasn’t disclosed them.


Switchblade 600
Ghost-X
Performance Drone Works’ C-100

I'm not negating what Ukraine is doing. I am saying that the Pentagon selected specific hardware to use and is trying to shoe-horn in what is IMMATURE so-called "AI" into them to perform at some level that they have demanded in their contract Statements of Work.

littlemissmartypants

(30,743 posts)
8. All autonomous means is not under direct control.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:21 PM
Sep 27

All unmanned drones are autonomous.

The "war department" is having trouble producing "at scale" because they are expecting to have something that hasn't been created yet scaled up to outrageous proportions.

BumRushDaShow

(162,581 posts)
10. Attempting to use "AI" for "autonomous vehicles
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:52 PM
Sep 27

is attempting to add "intelligence" to have it do something more than avoid hazards.

Look at the issues with those "self-driving" cars - and in their case, they are not driving "through a war zone" (although on some streets and highways, it probably seems like that ).

And I think what you just wrote is what I have been saying.

"AI" is NOT "ready for prime time" yet for this application. It's bad enough the made-up shit it has generated when lazy lawyers use it for stuff like legal briefs.

littlemissmartypants

(30,743 posts)
11. Hegseth with the largest budget in the world saw a drone show replacement for a
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 03:05 PM
Sep 27

Fourth of July fireworks display on AGT* or somewhere and like a five year old said ...

"I want one of those."

These people are beyond stupid. And you and I know how easy the stupid are to bamboozle.

*

BumRushDaShow

(162,581 posts)
14. Unless TACO blocks it
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 05:29 AM
Sep 28

and insists on "American made". There is too much throwing babies out with bath water and too many egos in the Pentagon.

thesquanderer

(12,832 posts)
3. Maybe the AI keeps responding, "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 10:53 AM
Sep 27

That's probably what I would do if I were an AI attack drone.

FredGarvin

(722 posts)
6. Meanwhile in China
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 11:38 AM
Sep 27


China invested heavily in education

Meanwhile in the US ...students staring at phones and are lost.

Bayard

(27,624 posts)
9. Totally awesome
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 27

I'm afraid if we could do something like that it would just display trump's face.

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